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I bought the PC version, it has been patched.

I had the PS3 version of Fallout 3, I put maybe 60 hours into that and had maybe 10-12 crashes

New Vegas? 5 Crashes in 25 hours, and 3 of them were in a 2 hour period (really bothered me)

So 2 Crashes in the other 25 is not too bad.... Most PC games seemed to do at least that. I think with all 5 of my crashes I may have lost 30 minutes of playtime... autosave saved me here once (about 2 hours since last hard save)

Had some framerate issues on the strip, the patch seamed to fix that for the most past, it still gets a little slow when going into VATS sometimes..

I'd give the game a 9.3 with the bugs, none are even close to gamebreaking, It will be a 9.8 IMO once they fix the minor issues. Awsome awsome game. Better than Fallout 3 in most ways, in fact I think the only reason it is even close in my mind is I bought the GOTY edition for the PS3... So it seemed alot bigger than it really was.



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Ajescent said:
oldschoolfool said:
Ajescent said:


Really short games= Vanquish getting praised regardless of length, something like flOwer I remember getting docked points for being short.

till today, I still feel sour to Gametrailers (or was it someone else?)  for docking points for Wipeout HD because it recycled tracks and ships from older games but overlooked the fact that the game was a brilliantly put together piece of awesomeness, with only one real bug to speak of. Yet NV is getting everyone jizzing left right and centre when clearly the game is incomplete.

Yes I'm aware it's a huge game trying new things but that's not a real excuse in my opinion as it seems quite a few of the bugs that originally happened in F3 is happening in NV as well. I remember people talking about enemies spawning in mid-air and falling to their death, happened to me a couple of times and by the sounds of things, this hasn't been fixed. If it had been a lesser known company, I doubt that they would get away it.

some games can make up for being short by being great in other areas, a game that is awesome for 4 hours is still better than a 40 hour piece of crap. Having said that if the game is short then reviews should at least mention it which I believe most reviewers do, and points should be docked if the enjoyment of the game is harmed by it's length.

games should be docked for copy and pasting old content as people could just get the content from the old game so there is less need to get the new one, as long as they still gave the game a fair rating I don't see the problem. But if the game still had new content and mechanics in other areas that outways the the copied stuff than yes the game should get a high score.

As for NV it is not getting universal praise at all many reviews have docked it considerably for the bugs and the reused assets, but from what I have heard and read the content is so good and so plentiful that the game is still more than worth playing, it's not perfect but it's still a great game. If you don't agree with the reviewers opinion of the game then disregard it, it's not law or definitive by any means.

Now as for vanquish many reviews docked it for length but once again the game is still a blast to play, and for the kind of people the game is aimed at it will have tones of replayability with it's god hard mode, challenge mode and online leader boards, it's still a great game with a lot going for it. And as long as the review mentioned the length so people that find the ability to finish the campaign in 4~ hours by skipping all the cut-scenes and the fact the is a lot of cheesy dialogue so people who don't like that sort of thing can avoid the game, I don't see the problem if the reviewer thinks that the game is amazing and worth a 9/10.

Some people find game length to be incredibly important, some value the amount of fun they had while playing the game no matter the length, some people find glitches unbearable some people think the gameplay and content of the game can make up for technical short comings, and reviews are going to reflect that, reviews are the reviewers opinions of the game after all, you disagree with their opinion fine don't buy the game (or do) find reviewers that reflect your opinions and stick with theme if you wan't but just because you have a different opinion doesn't make their review wrong.

 

as for things falling out of the sky are you sure that's a bug, sounds like a feature to me...



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oldschoolfool said:
Crystalchild said:

First thing's first:

- Played Version: PS3

- Playtime: 23 Hours

- Finished (a certain Campaign): Yes, and 'a bit' more.

- Version Played: 1.01

 

Okay, i was very sceptical about the New Fallout, and i knew from the Start, it'll be just a Timekiller, since Two Worlds 2 is delayed to 3rd November.

But still, you want quality for your money, no?

 

Okay were do i start...  lets start with Flying Cows, huh?

No Joke, a Brahmin just spawned in the Sky and was like.. 'Moooh' .. then i was like.. 'huh, where did that come from?*looks into the air* ... then he was like... MOOH! ... and i was like '...Wtf?' ... and then he was like.. 'MoooOoOoOOooHHH!111' *Splash!* ... and i was like... 'HAHAH ROFLROFLROFL EPICZ! LOLOLOL'

But with exception of this amusing Cow, there were some heavy issues... sometimes, the Framerate is going below 5, and will stay there until u reload (happened 2 times in 23~  Hours), and then there were some crashes... 5 to be exact, and on top of this, there are many logic-mistakes.. or stupid set Invisible Walls.. 

Bugs n' Glitches really have a bad influence to the experience...

 

BUT other than that, you have Fallout 3, Casino's, Card Games, Lots of Faction's, some great Atmosphere, Lots of variety in the Dungeons and Towns , and a bit more.

 

I think new Vegas could have been great, but with all its flaws, it is 'just' a nice game with too many flaws, but still, i didnt regret the Buy by now, because, after all, it is fun.

This is the main reason,I'm going to buy this game later,to see if they patch some of this stuff.

awww you didnt do any sidequests?



I'll prolly just wait till its all patched up before picking thsi up



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Its good to know that it is at least enjoyable. I'm going to wait a while before getting it, though, cuz i'm still working on Fallout 3 and a couple other titles. More patches are imminent, so It should just become a better experience with time anyway.



Ajescent said:

It bugs me (no pun intended) that gamers these theys are willing to embrace with open arms really short games or clearly unfinished games and pay the full price but then dink really good games for less.


Well I don't buy games when they're buggy from the beginning. I expect  game to have very few bugs from the get go. I could careless about patching a game as I barely patched (or never patched) any of my games years ago. I expect games to be great from the beginning. Lazy damn devs...



Well, to throw in my little bit of anecdotal evidence... I'm about 15 hours into the 360 version of the game and haven't had any crashes or significant framerate drops; the game has actually been surprisingly stable based on all the negative press I was seeing about bugginess and frequent crashes.  I played about eight hours or so off the disc and then installed the game and have been playing from the install since then.  Anyway, I haven't seen any issues with flying cows, mysteriously appearing/disappearing enemies or bizarre NPC behaviour.



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it sounds like i should save my two bottle caps, that is a short playthrough to a supposed RPG at full price!!



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Linkasf said:
Ajescent said:

It bugs me (no pun intended) that gamers these theys are willing to embrace with open arms really short games or clearly unfinished games and pay the full price but then dink really good games for less.


Well I don't buy games when they're buggy from the beginning. I expect  game to have very few bugs from the get go. I could careless about patching a game as I barely patched (or never patched) any of my games years ago. I expect games to be great from the beginning. Lazy damn devs...

This is a hypothetical

Well say what happens if. The game is more fun with the inconvenience of bugs included. Than a game without bugs. Would you get the game without bugs based on principal?  Especially if they patched the game so it was clearly better than other games you may have already boughten?