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ishiki said:
Xbbjf9s said:

Then expect versus to be better than 13

I don't like kingdom hearts >_>. Well, KH1 anyways

i don't either, I'm a crisis core fan..too bad i got a psp goa and it's not downloadable (unless i pirate it).



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Muffin31190 said:
ishiki said:
Muffin31190 said:

FF X was the last great game they put out there, 11 was okay not my cup of tea but good none the less, X-2 was just like there is no point to this even bieng made but it had some interesting qualities, 12 was suprising but There was no reason for the main charecter in the game so whats the point, 13 was just like - R U Serious we cant even go on a World Map like Everyother Final Fantasy Game .... it was soooo linear and in my eyes the worst final fantasy but it was still a good game but not something that is supposed to live up to the Final Fantasy Quality. If u Noticed something all the games i talked about were made by Square Enix, not Square Soft .... and that People is what happened to Final Fantasy. When Square Soft merged with Enix there games turned sour ... It still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth BLEEEEHHHHHH.


Final Fantasy X-2 was made by squaresoft, and published by square in Japan. it just wasn't released in the states until squaresoft was made square-enix. Just like those GBA FF games have the Square-Enix label but obviously were not made by square enix.

Yeah u can say that but thats not exactly true X-2 was made after 11 and that was done with square Eniz and 13 might have had some of the same people working on it as X but i know quite a few people left square in that 9 year time period and i mean some key players left


Final Fantasy X-2 was made by square before it turned into Square Enix. It was published in Japan By Square, not Square-Enix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2



if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!



 

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain



Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain

explain what part? , i have a bad english i know lol



 

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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain

explain what part? , i have a bad english i know lol

how was the battle system and story bad? The story seemed more mature than other FF gamesand the battle system was an improve from back and forth that ruled previous ff games. I like the fact that the characters are shown drawing their weapons or shieldswhen the battle starts.



Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain

explain what part? , i have a bad english i know lol

how was the battle system and story bad? The story seemed more mature than other FF gamesand the battle system was an improve from back and forth that ruled previous ff games. I like the fact that the characters are shown drawing their weapons or shieldswhen the battle starts.

IMO i like more of turn based system , i want to control all the characters :( , not just one , auto mode on ?? that sucks :(

story was bad IMO because dont have a good lead character and a good villain , for me its just mehhhh, but ff12 have good things like the world of the game , love the towns and cities , and all the races in that world.



 

Agito FTW! lol



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain

explain what part? , i have a bad english i know lol

how was the battle system and story bad? The story seemed more mature than other FF gamesand the battle system was an improve from back and forth that ruled previous ff games. I like the fact that the characters are shown drawing their weapons or shieldswhen the battle starts.

IMO i like more of turn based system , i want to control all the characters :( , not just one , auto mode on ?? that sucks :(

story was bad IMO because dont have a good lead character and a good villain , for me its just mehhhh, but ff12 have good things like the world of the game , love the towns and cities , and all the races in that world.

I completely agree with Xbbjf9 on FF12, and this is why:

can anyone seriously say that after FF12, FF13 or any FF reached that kind realistic maturity; and the story in FF12 had very dark undertones, one of the most important ones was the rich and poor class divide, and the disturbing allsions to Hiroshima, never before or after had FF reached that kind of storytelling. and i dont believe it can with the FF13 team.



A203D said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Xbbjf9s said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

if they make another horrible game like ff13 you can say goodbye to that franchise.

People will not buy another crapy game just because of his name anymore , ffversus13 will be the game that will save the series or give the final blow , final fantasy 12 was bad because of the combat system and story but ff13 fail in all things , the game is an abomination and now they kill the online experience , great work squarenix!!!

Please explain

explain what part? , i have a bad english i know lol

how was the battle system and story bad? The story seemed more mature than other FF gamesand the battle system was an improve from back and forth that ruled previous ff games. I like the fact that the characters are shown drawing their weapons or shieldswhen the battle starts.

IMO i like more of turn based system , i want to control all the characters :( , not just one , auto mode on ?? that sucks :(

story was bad IMO because dont have a good lead character and a good villain , for me its just mehhhh, but ff12 have good things like the world of the game , love the towns and cities , and all the races in that world.

I completely agree with Xbbjf9 on FF12, and this is why:

 

 

can anyone seriously say that after FF12, FF13 or any FF reached that kind realistic maturity; and the story in FF12 had very dark undertones, one of the most important ones was the rich and poor class divide, and the incredible allsions to Hiroshima, never before or after had FF reached that kind of storytelling. and i dont believe it can with the FF13 team.


they weren't trying to get the same tone. It's like saying FFXII has a better story than blade runner, pixar movie, or ghost in the shell because it deals with politics instead of science fiction. Realistic =/= better. And are you also stating that a more complex story is better than a simple one. There is no definition in what makes a good story. You just like stories that you deem "mature" and final fantasy XII you deem it as that. And for whatever reason the direction FF must take to make you happy. In which case I'd abandon that hope on all the previous FF's 1-12, and until matsuno works on another FF.

And you picked probably the worst scene in FFX. And compared it to one of the best scenes in FFXII. Though I won't deny the writing is better in FFXII. I won't hesitate to say the story was better in X imo.

Now, I used to think you were more reasoble at not liking the general direction FF was going.

But really, if FFXII was you're definition of what a FF game must be story-wise. Then the only game that would fit that is FFXII or Vagrant story (which is much better than FFXII imo because it didn't have to stick to FF constraints like Chocobo's, summons, and Moogles). So you are stating the series must go this one direction when the series has never gone one direction  consistently before.