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killed the franchise? ff 13 had mostly positive reviews and is apporaching 6 million in sales right? To me 13 was great not as good as i expected but still awesome. different people different opinions but saying Square enix is killing the franchis is ridiculous. And darthdevidemo1 is right if the internet was a vast as today it would have been the same discussions for 8 as it didnt live up to alot of peoples expectations though alot loved it.



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Well i have to partially agree with the op. After being blow away by FF VI and FF VII, i was ok with FF VIII and FF IX and was again blow away with FF X. But after FF X, i keep on playing the others but was not really blow away, there were just ok, but FF VI, VII and X are the example they should follow in an FF, FF XIII did try some of VII and XIII but they got it only half right. Lets hope they got it right in FF XV in 2014, lol



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yum123 said:

no not at all 13 was awesome  man ff fans are hard to please


Non-FF fans are too easy to please.



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Whether or not FF13 is a good game or not, it cant have improved the popularity of the series, or it would be on its way to outselling FF8, and 10, but its not, and no where near FF7 sales, so this is a moot point imo. and i believe Versus will sell less. so i think its debatable whether the series can continue if the sales of the series continue to degrade. especially considering that FF13 was gifted a new HD engine, and 5 years in development, and came on well established userbases for the PS3 and 360; if they cant do it after that then...



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Funny how the younger gamers tend to claim that the FF series is okay right now. I guess that when you grow up next to some of the worst games in the series you might think that they're good but only because you don't know or understand what the series was originally about.

 

 While the quality of the ff games varied from 4-9, they were what made and defined Final Fantasy .

 

And then came FF X. Different game mechanics, no exploration and the beginning of "go from point A to point B" in the series. And those god damned spin-offs. Sure, FF X still had that one redeeming feature: a very nice and engaging story. But 3 games later there's not even that. I don't understand how people can even call THAT GARBAGE in ff 13 a story.

 

I understand people have different tastes and respect that. But younger gamers have to understand that the ff games created from the ps2 era till now suck balls by the earlier series standards, and badly at that.

 

Seriously, instead of making a ff7 remake, they should make a ff 6 remake. Now that would be something worth buying.



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yanamaster said:

 

Funny how the younger gamers tend to claim that the FF series is okay right now. I guess that when you grow up next to some of the worst games in the series you might think that they're good but only because you don't know or understand what the series was originally about.

 

 While the quality of the ff games varied from 4-9, they were what made and defined Final Fantasy .

 

And then came FF X. Different game mechanics, no exploration and the beginning of "go from point A to point B" in the series. And those god damned spin-offs. Sure, FF X still had that one redeeming feature: a very nice and engaging story. But 3 games later there's not even that. I don't understand how people can even call THAT GARBAGE in ff 13 a story.

 

I understand people have different tastes and respect that. But younger gamers have to understand that the ff games created from the ps2 era till now suck balls by the earlier series standards, and badly at that.

 

Seriously, instead of making a ff7 remake, they should make a ff 6 remake. Now that would be something worth buying.

I played my first final fantasy on NES, when I was like 4, (didn't understand it or play it much obviously.) then I played 8 when it came out, then I went back and played all of them. And I love 13, and I love the old ones. You're lumping everyone together, and saying everyone has opinion, but the ps2 ones past suck balls which is an opinion but you're saying it like it is a fact when it is not.

. Final fantasy's always had spinoff's. Or using the name to rebrand other games, such as saga being called final fantasy legends.

Imo the battle system's have improved significantly as the series has gone on. While it can be said that FFX was a step back in gameplay form a certain point of view IE point A to B. FFX-2, is completely the opposite and you can go anywhere right from the start. As well as FFXII being the most open non-linear final fantasy game (I didn't particularly like this game either). because, instead of a world map you are in the world the whole time, (unless you take a airship) and you can take different paths to get to different places. Things to do everywhere.

The same can be said about FFVI's story oriented being a step back for the series compared to final fantasy V job mechanics (which is why 5 is my favorite 2D final fantasy). Yet, people prefer different things, because more people here prefer FFVI even though the mechanics are less complicated that 5.



yanamaster said:

 

Funny how the younger gamers tend to claim that the FF series is okay right now. I guess that when you grow up next to some of the worst games in the series you might think that they're good but only because you don't know or understand what the series was originally about.

 

 While the quality of the ff games varied from 4-9, they were what made and defined Final Fantasy .

 

And then came FF X. Different game mechanics, no exploration and the beginning of "go from point A to point B" in the series. And those god damned spin-offs. Sure, FF X still had that one redeeming feature: a very nice and engaging story. But 3 games later there's not even that. I don't understand how people can even call THAT GARBAGE in ff 13 a story.

 

I understand people have different tastes and respect that. But younger gamers have to understand that the ff games created from the ps2 era till now suck balls by the earlier series standards, and badly at that.

 

Seriously, instead of making a ff7 remake, they should make a ff 6 remake. Now that would be something worth buying.

 

Every other FF game gives the illusion of linearity. Did you really have anything to do after getting out of Midgar other than going to Kalm? Then the Chocobo Ranch? Then to the Mythril Mines? What about from Balamb to the Fire Cave? Or from Timber to Galbadian Garden? What about from Troia to the Antlion's Cave? How about from Burmecia to Cleyra? There was about nothing to do in between those. 

But there is still the occasional sidequest or the hidden island. FFX has those too. They're called: Baaj Temple, Remiem Temple, Cavern of the Stolen Fayth, Omega Ruins, Monster Arena/Capturing, Chocobo Training, BLITZBALL, and the hidden Al Bhed treasures like Mi'ihen Ruins, Besaid Ruins, Sanubia Sands, and Mushroom Rock.

So don't say FFX is more linear than other FFs because that is not true.

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The series has lost some of its values, yes, but it isn't dead. FF8 was a bad FF game too, then they rebounded with the incredible FF9. MMOs don't count in terms of FF, and I feel FFXV will be awesome.



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Jordahn said:
yum123 said:

no not at all 13 was awesome  man ff fans are hard to please


Non-FF fans are too easy to please.


are you kidding final fantasy is like the only franchise i care about

it just annoys me how everyone calls it a crap game when it is far better than 90% of other games that have released if it didnt have final fantasy name on it everyone would be praising the crap out of it. and i treated it as a new game as that is what every new ff is and i as pleased with it 

majority of people and just bandwagon jumping



I notice that ff12 hasn't been brought up, imo that's the best one.

to the op-  I agree with you