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Rath said:
Mr.Metralha said:

I'm still to know to this day, how 2 buildings can fall perfectly vertical like in a demolition due to a plane crashing on its side.

 

 

 


The planes didn't knock them over like dominoes. The fuel from the planes was sufficient to weaken the structures to the point where the weight of the building above was more than the structure could hold, therefore the building collapsed at these points. After that it was all a matter of momentum, each floor couldn't possibly take the force of all of the above floors falling on it, so therefore they pancaked.

 

Edit: To clarify, the verticle collapse was because by far the most significant force acting on the buildings at the time of the collapse was gravity.

 

Edit: Also to me personally the reason why the Holocaust was probably the worst crime in the history of humanity was because of how and why it was done. It wasn't to secure power or to win a war, it was simply for the purpose of wiping out a race. On top of that it was done in such a machine like fashion, there is something far more horrifying to me about killing with such efficiency.


everything you said about 9/11 is true

edit: then you should take a look at Slavery in America



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Stopped at "If the Jews are so certain"

what an ignorant, stupid thing to say. My grandfather was in the war and saw crematoriums first hand.

No wonder I almost never agree with you about anything, if this is the kind of idea you support.



Rath said:
libellule said:
 

hi Rath,

so weird

planes are on 1 side at 1 level and they will change the temperature of the whole building ? at the same rate ?

the vertical "demolition collapse" is REALLY intriguing to me

and can you explain me the tower 7 demolition ?

It only requires the weakening of a single level for the building to collapse in that way, the one level collapses and that causes a chain reaction as each floor collapses under the momentum of the rest of them - the 'pancake' effect you can see in the videos.

The plane had enough velocity to spread fuel and fire throughout basically the entire level of the building which is all that was required.

 

Also I don't know anything about the collapse of tower 7, so you'll have to ask somebody else on that one.


Just to add to your point ...

Very tall towers tend to be built within very limited tolerances because you can't build a tower to those heights and have them overbuilt; and this is simply because the weight of the building would be too large for the building to support itself. What this means is that every floor is (essentially) designed to support the weight of all floors above it (with some reasonable margin for error). As soon as the building above a floor collapses on it that floor will collapse under the force of the "falling" building above it.

The reason the twin towers fell in such a straight fashion is that the fire from the fuel in the planes would be hottest at the center of the building, which weakened the building the most at the center of the building. When these towers failed, the floors collapsed in the middle and created a "cone", and with the structure near the exterior of the building being in better shape as the building fell it pulled everything to the center of the building.

 

I realize I'm not doing the best job explaining it, but the (basic) point is that the towers falling the way they did makes perfect sense.



Really, guys? It takes all of five minutes to research why the towers pancaked like they did. Shit like this makes my brain hurt. The design of the towers made them so they were an exoskeleton and 95% air with no structure inside other than a central elevator shaft and stairs. The only way a building like that collapses is straight down.




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Great thread, numonex, and your avatar has never seemed more appropriate.



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If I'm going to lurk from time to time, can I not see Numonex's threads in Off Topic? He has got to be the most fucking retarded person this site has ever had. Everything he posts seems to be straight out of some "conspiracy theory/liberal propaganda" generator (if such a thing exists). We get it. The West is evil and Sharia Law is just. You're such a fucking troll. Seriously, shouldn't Holocaust denial be a bannable offense? Do the mods even surf Off Topic? Do they even give a shit? And if that wasn't bad enough, I had to be reminded of 9/11 conspiracy theories as well. Seriously, at least all of the anti-semitism on GAF is somewhat bearable. This is just so incredibly stupid.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:

If I'm going to lurk from time to time, can I not see Numonex's threads in Off Topic? He has got to be the most fucking retarded person this site has ever had. Everything he posts seems to be straight out of some "conspiracy theory/liberal propaganda" generator (if such a thing exists). We get it. The West is evil and Sharia Law is just. You're such a fucking troll. Seriously, shouldn't Holocaust denial be a bannable offense? Do the mods even surf Off Topic? Do they even give a shit? And if that wasn't bad enough, I had to be reminded of 9/11 conspiracy theories as well. Seriously, at least all of the anti-semitism on GAF is somewhat bearable. This is just so incredibly stupid.

MONTANA!




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rocketpig said:
MontanaHatchet said:

If I'm going to lurk from time to time, can I not see Numonex's threads in Off Topic? He has got to be the most fucking retarded person this site has ever had. Everything he posts seems to be straight out of some "conspiracy theory/liberal propaganda" generator (if such a thing exists). We get it. The West is evil and Sharia Law is just. You're such a fucking troll. Seriously, shouldn't Holocaust denial be a bannable offense? Do the mods even surf Off Topic? Do they even give a shit? And if that wasn't bad enough, I had to be reminded of 9/11 conspiracy theories as well. Seriously, at least all of the anti-semitism on GAF is somewhat bearable. This is just so incredibly stupid.

MONTANA!

I love you too dude.



 

 

In regards to Numonex, just view him as the homeless guy who stands outside your workplace with a board over his chest screaming "The End is NIGH". No one takes him seriously and he just looks like an ass who can't discern facts from nonsense. If anything, I feel sorry for him because he's incapable of critical thinking.

I try to avoid calling people straight-up ignorant but in this case, it's long overdue. Someone has to say it.




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