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Conegamer on 04 October 2010
jarrod said:
Conegamer said:
Machina said:

After a quick scan of the titles and their sales, these are my initial reactions:

Xenoblade - meh
MH3 - success
RS2 - failure
Other M - failure
Boom Blox -  success


This seems to be the general trend, and what I expected. Nice one

Yeah, more or less.  I think more context would help though, Other M's more sluggish but it'll still do decent numbers compared to most similar games (especially on Wii).  Boom Blox was an eventual success, but it basically flopped up front and only crawled to decent figures over the long haul.  The only unqualified success there is MH3 imo, and the only unqualified failure is RS2.

Remember, this is my FIRST EVER THREAD- lay off :)

ANYWAY, yeah I agree. Other M would be a success if we only looked at America, and Tri would be a failure if we only looked at the UK. It depends on your views. Perhaps if we leave other M for another few weeks we'll pick up on legs. As for the rest, well, we'll have to wait for Christmas really, see if those new Ninty ads have the desired affect. I bet they won't :P

EDIT**

How can you call Boom Blox a flop? That's like calling NSMBWii a failure because it doesn't have a 100% attach rate...



 

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pacman91 on 04 October 2010
Conegamer said:
pacman91 said:

Why in the world did you talk about the first boom blox?? The awesome sequel would have been a more interesting conversation and analysis.

 


The first boom blox has been out for longer, had a bigger impact and also doesn't suffer from sequel syndrome. Also, the figures amazed me with the first, not so with the second.

Red Steel 2 is a sequel...and all the other games listed came out after bash party.

Boom Blox was obviously a success.

oh well, interesting conversation nonetheless.



Yakuzaice on 04 October 2010

Xenoblade - It didn't do great, but it didn't do poorly either.  We'll see what the western sales look like.

Monster Hunter Tri - Japanese sales weren't very good, and it doesn't look like it will have the legs of the PSP games.  Western sales have been fairly strong.

Red Steel 2 - Pretty much the only clear cut bomb on this list.  I'm not sure why you're saying it's a success because it might reach a lowered expectation eventually at budget prices.

Metroid: Other M - Pretty good in Japan compared to the recent First Person games.  Underperformed a bit in America, but completely tanked in others.

Boom Blox - A Success.  Not much more to say about that.  The sequel didn't do that well though, which seems to be a recurring theme with third party hits on the Wii.



9Chiba on 04 October 2010
RolStoppable said:

Xenoblade did okay, but we'll have to wait and see until it (hopefully) releases in the rest of the world.

Monster Hunter Tri is a success, only people who have no clue about the importance of local multiplayer for this series would say otherwise.

Red Steel 2 certainly didn't live up to Ubisoft's sales expectations (not even the revised ones), but the game didn't live up to gamers' expectations either. If the game isn't good (and RS2 really is a one-trick-pony), it's not reasonable to expect people to rush out and buy the game. Ubisoft is the one to blame here.

Metroid: Other M is an even bigger failure and it's Nintendo's fault for taking the series into the wrong direction, making it something that it shouldn't be.

Boom Blox was a fantastic success for EA. A low budget game that sold a million copies.

@ bold, the little malstrom on your shoulder is working overtime i see.



BMaker11 on 05 October 2010

They sold more than 2 copies? VGC logic states that all of them were success =/



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GooseGaws on 05 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:

Monster Hunter Tri - Japanese sales weren't very good, and it doesn't look like it will have the legs of the PSP games.  Western sales have been fairly strong.

Uh... what?  This is the only third-party million-seller on the Wii in Japan, and one of only two million-sellers not published by Nintendo on ANY console this generation (the other being FFXIII).  How is that not very good, again?



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Yakuzaice on 05 October 2010
GooseGaws said:
Yakuzaice said:

Monster Hunter Tri - Japanese sales weren't very good, and it doesn't look like it will have the legs of the PSP games.  Western sales have been fairly strong.

Uh... what?  This is the only third-party million-seller on the Wii in Japan, and one of only two million-sellers not published by Nintendo on ANY console this generation (the other being FFXIII).  How is that not very good, again?

Because it is a franchise where the last iteration had higher sales than any Final Fantasy ever.  FFXIII, a franchise which peaked below Monster Hunter, and had its peak 13 years ago, outsold MH3 by nearly 80%.  Not to say that was exactly unexpected considering it found its fame and fortune on portables with local play.  That doesn't make the sales good though, especially when you take into consideration the budget was much higher than the PSP games.

If Dragon Quest X were to come out tomorrow and sell 1 million copies lifetime that would be very poor as well even if it is only the third 3rd party million seller on consoles.



jarrod on 05 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:
GooseGaws said:
Yakuzaice said:

Monster Hunter Tri - Japanese sales weren't very good, and it doesn't look like it will have the legs of the PSP games.  Western sales have been fairly strong.

Uh... what?  This is the only third-party million-seller on the Wii in Japan, and one of only two million-sellers not published by Nintendo on ANY console this generation (the other being FFXIII).  How is that not very good, again?

Because it is a franchise where the last iteration had higher sales than any Final Fantasy ever.  FFXIII, a franchise which peaked below Monster Hunter, and had its peak 13 years ago, outsold MH3 by nearly 80%.  Not to say that was exactly unexpected considering it found its fame and fortune on portables with local play.  That doesn't make the sales good though, especially when you take into consideration the budget was much higher than the PSP games.

If Dragon Quest X were to come out tomorrow and sell 1 million copies lifetime that would be very poor as well even if it is only the third 3rd party million seller on consoles.

Problem is, the last console DQ sold 3.6m while the last console MH sold 650k.  The differences extend past just console/handheld for MH too, as MH3 carries a subscription fee for multiplayer (and indeed it's the best selling subscription based game EVER in Japan).

Tri met Capcom's Japanese sales targets (and actually exceeded their subscription targets).  You can't really call that anything but a success.



Yakuzaice on 05 October 2010
jarrod said:
Yakuzaice said:
GooseGaws said:
Yakuzaice said:

Monster Hunter Tri - Japanese sales weren't very good, and it doesn't look like it will have the legs of the PSP games.  Western sales have been fairly strong.

Uh... what?  This is the only third-party million-seller on the Wii in Japan, and one of only two million-sellers not published by Nintendo on ANY console this generation (the other being FFXIII).  How is that not very good, again?

Because it is a franchise where the last iteration had higher sales than any Final Fantasy ever.  FFXIII, a franchise which peaked below Monster Hunter, and had its peak 13 years ago, outsold MH3 by nearly 80%.  Not to say that was exactly unexpected considering it found its fame and fortune on portables with local play.  That doesn't make the sales good though, especially when you take into consideration the budget was much higher than the PSP games.

If Dragon Quest X were to come out tomorrow and sell 1 million copies lifetime that would be very poor as well even if it is only the third 3rd party million seller on consoles.

Problem is, the last console DQ sold 3.6m while the last console MH sold 650k.  The differences extend past just console/handheld for MH too, as MH3 carries a subscription fee for multiplayer (and indeed it's the best selling subscription based game EVER in Japan).

Tri met Capcom's Japanese sales targets (and actually exceeded their subscription targets).  You can't really call that anything but a success.

If this were something like Animal crossing where it did about 1 million on GC, 5.3 million on the DS, and then 1.3 million on the Wii I'd be more inclined to agree with you.  It is pretty clear cut there that just the switch to portables allowed the franchise to explode.

I'm trying to find the article about their subscription targets, does it actually have any hard numbers or just general comments like they were "happy" with them?  I'm guessing if people are still paying for it they haven't done a very good job of convincing their friends considering 2G outsold Tri almost 7 to 1 this year.

Tri had its reasons for underperforming, but that doesn't make it a success.  It also had plenty of things going for it.  Higher budget, plenty of advertising, a big push from both Capcom and Nintendo, and of course coming off of the massive hit that was 2G.



Conegamer on 05 October 2010
pacman91 said:
Conegamer said:
pacman91 said:

Why in the world did you talk about the first boom blox?? The awesome sequel would have been a more interesting conversation and analysis.

 


The first boom blox has been out for longer, had a bigger impact and also doesn't suffer from sequel syndrome. Also, the figures amazed me with the first, not so with the second.

Red Steel 2 is a sequel...and all the other games listed came out after bash party.

Boom Blox was obviously a success.

oh well, interesting conversation nonetheless.

Hey, calm down. I just went for games which had MORE of an affect, so Boom Blox, after labelled a flop, sold 1 million. I never even knew there was a sequel...

Also, Red steel 2 is a game which was hyped up and had so much controvesy, I had to put it in. I did miss one game though, which I have now included. Thanks for your input however. My thoughts extended will be up soon, but I'm sorta busy ATM.



 

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