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Mirson said:
Wagram said:
Mirson said:

I agree that FFXIII did not deserve to sell more than FFXII. FFXII is better than FFXIII in every aspect, especially replay value. I like FFXIII, but one thing that bothered me was there's nothing to do other than fighting. Not only that, but I can't see myself going through those linear corridors anytime soon.

FFXII, on the other hand, had hunts, a bunch of side-quests, numerous places to explore, espers, etc. You can easily spend 200 hours in that game with the optional stuff. The battle system was pretty neat including the gambits, and removing the random battles/screen battle transition was a welcomed addition. Lastly, I really enjoyed the serious, mature tone of the game (story). If Vaan and Penelo weren't present, it would be a near perfect game for me.


Does Matsuno still work at Square? I really enjoyed XII but seriously what in the blazes has that team been doing since the XII release?

He left Square. I think he's working on the Tactics Ogre remake.


isn't that being published by square-enix though... who's making it... as in who's Matsuno working for?



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Bad word of mouth didnt kill the momentum I see, this game had the worst story ive seen for any FF game outside of DIssidia, matter of fact Dissidia is a fighting game so it gets a pass. There wasnt even a central villian. The characters, my god there terrible, Sazh is the best cause he did the least crying. Lighting is your typical tough girl bitch. you ca be tough and not be a bitch, look at Aqua from BBS. Vanille, I still dont know what accent that is. The graphics are excellent but this is SE im no longer amazed by their graphics cause I expect nothing less. THe battle system is good. I hate MMORPGs so playing FF12 was like eating glass. but it had way better story and characters. Can SE make a complete FF game anymore that doesnt suck in some departent. The last good games with the name FF on it I played were Dissidia and Crisis Core. Hell I wouldnt even be surprised if Agito is better than 13. BBS already is IMO



you are combining PS3 and 360 sales against PS2 aren't you?



"Nomura directed KH1/2....and is doing versus XIII......produced TWEWY

Kitase directed FF6/7/8.....produced X, XIII

Tabata directed Crisis Core....ok maybe he hasn't proven himself enough yet.

all the above games are better than FF Tactics and FF12.

so yes for me they are better than Matsuno. Deal With it.

In fact I'll add in Ito he co-directed FF6 and directed FF9."

HAHAHAHA wow that's the weirdest worldview I've seen in a while. Crisis Core better than Tactics, lol. Alright, I'll leave you alone to read Twilight and listen to Linkin Park or whatever it is you do when you're not playing juvenile video games.



Qays said:

"Nomura directed KH1/2....and is doing versus XIII......produced TWEWY

Kitase directed FF6/7/8.....produced X, XIII

Tabata directed Crisis Core....ok maybe he hasn't proven himself enough yet.

all the above games are better than FF Tactics and FF12.

so yes for me they are better than Matsuno. Deal With it.

In fact I'll add in Ito he co-directed FF6 and directed FF9."

HAHAHAHA wow that's the weirdest worldview I've seen in a while. Crisis Core better than Tactics, lol. Alright, I'll leave you alone to read Twilight and listen to Linkin Park or whatever it is you do when you're not playing juvenile video games.

why flame darth? thats unnecessary,

And, technically then, you play those juvenille games too, which begs the question, why keep playing them if you dont actually like them?

Or, you've never played those juvenille games, in which case you you have no argument as to how juvenille those games actually are.

I do think Crisis Core Is Better than Tactics and FFXII, I do however think Tactics Ogre, and Vagrant Story is better than all of those. If one likes "thing A" it does not mean they like "thing B".



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FFXII was bad I mean really really bad and FFXII was just decent

 

Serioulsy keep FF and DQ turnbased and let every other RPG actionbased



If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing   (mostly)

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Wagram said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Wagram said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Excellent!

FF13 is better than FF12 in almost all aspects, it deserves to sell much more than it! Nice to see consumers echo this statement!

@Acevil

FF8 is the one deserving of more sales.


Why yes it is Darth! I'm glad you agree.

and WOOOT @ FF13. It is the 2nd best game this gen for a reason.

Compared to MW2 every FF deserves more sales lol

@Qays

Nomura, Kitase, Tabata >>>>> Matsuno


*waits to see if Darth realizes what just happened*

and yes I agree that CoD is utter garbage.

LOL! FFXIII is the 2nd best game this gen and CoD is utter garbage? Well, your opinion on everything from now on is invalid :P



thelifatree said:
Mirson said:

He left Square. I think he's working on the Tactics Ogre remake.


isn't that being published by square-enix though... who's making it... as in who's Matsuno working for?

Just checked, and yep, SE is publishing it. Apparently, the original team is working on it.

I love Matsuno.



--OkeyDokey-- said:
Wagram said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Wagram said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Excellent!

FF13 is better than FF12 in almost all aspects, it deserves to sell much more than it! Nice to see consumers echo this statement!

@Acevil

FF8 is the one deserving of more sales.


Why yes it is Darth! I'm glad you agree.

and WOOOT @ FF13. It is the 2nd best game this gen for a reason.

Compared to MW2 every FF deserves more sales lol

@Qays

Nomura, Kitase, Tabata >>>>> Matsuno


*waits to see if Darth realizes what just happened*

and yes I agree that CoD is utter garbage.

LOL! FFXIII is the 2nd best game this gen and CoD is utter garbage? Well, your opinion on everything from now on is invalid :P

It is utter garbage.



Mirson said:
thelifatree said:
Mirson said:

He left Square. I think he's working on the Tactics Ogre remake.


isn't that being published by square-enix though... who's making it... as in who's Matsuno working for?

Just checked, and yep, SE is publishing it. Apparently, the original team is working on it.

I love Matsuno.

Edit: Did some checking maybe you already know this... T
http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/362/362710p1.html

so, if the original team works at SE (making the FF Tactics GBA, PSP games and SE owns the "Tactics Ogre" IP), doesn't that mean Matsuno's Working for SE again? Which maybe could be for just this project... but, I am confused. As long as matsuno makes games all is good.

I'm excited for the remake, not too often you can get most of the original team together for a remake:D.