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jneul on 01 October 2010

VGC Move sales

US Sales

Date
 VGC Move Units tracked
 2nd, 3rd or 4th controllers Total sales
18th Sep 2010 60,000
25, 000
 85, 000
25th Sep 2010 120, 000
 ........... ...........
9th Oct 2010 196, 000 55, 000 251, 000

 EMEAA Sales

Date
 VGC Move Units tracked 2nd, 3rd or 4th controllers Total sales
18th Sep 2010  80, 000
20, 000
 100, 000
25th Sep 2010 180, 000
 ........... .............
9th Oct 2010 273, 000 74, 000 347, 000

 Japan Sales
No data until move releases

Combined Sales:

Date
 VGC Move Units tracked 2nd, 3rd or 4th controllers Total sales
18th Sep 2010 140, 000
 45, 000
 185, 000
25th Sep 2010 300, 000
 ...........
 ............
9th Oct 2010 469, 000 129, 000 598, 000

 My move sales analysis

Europe

With SCEE reporting 1.5m moves sold, and in Italy alone the rate of purchase of moves was 60%, if every single country had a similar rate of purchase (which likely it did not as some countries had 100% purchase), you are looking at a minimum of 900k move sales definitely sold through to the customer, with a maximum of up to 1.2m moves as there will be plenty of moves hanging around still in some countries

Information sources

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=269861

http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/tecnologie/2010-10-15/playstation-move-vola-mercato-063956.shtml?uuid=AYK7CAaC&fromSearch

America

With recent reports flooding in of one million moves at least shipped out to america, and SCEA are having to increase production, as there are lots of shortages, you can pretty much gurantee that that 1 million is nearly sold, therefore I estimate at least 900k due to shortages

Information sources

http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/sony-finally-announces-north-american-move-sales/

Japan

No sales data yet

Possible Total Sales by my estimations

I am going to take the middle value of my estimation for europe which will be 1.05 million, and for America I will leave it at 900k, giving us a total of 1.95m move sales according to my estimations

Let me know if you are not happy with my estimations



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darthdevidem01 on 01 October 2010

EXCELLENT thread!!



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Cunning_Linguist on 01 October 2010

Good stuff. Is the total sales column just a total for that week or an overall running total? If its the former it might be nice to have a running total as well.

 

Edit - looked at it again, ignore me.



jneul on 01 October 2010
kowenicki said:

Are you saying its 390k and VGC are saying its 300k?

Apologies I havent been paying attention to move sales much...

Explain it to me again if you can.


No according to vgc 300k is only for starter kits, but work out about 25% of starter kits and that is your standalone figure as vgc said 25% of sales was standalone moves, but they was never added onto the running total...

I calculated mine differently by using attach ratio which currently is 80%, then work out 25% of that and add it on, make sense now?? (I hope it does)



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jneul on 01 October 2010
Cunning_Linguist said:

Good stuff. Is the total sales column just a total for that week or an overall running total? If its the former it might be nice to have a running total as well.

no its a overall running total, for example if I was to state calculated week two sales for starter kit's alone (without adding them to week 1's), I would get 143, 583 move starter bundles sold for week two, I will adjust to running total if you want, then overall accumulated totals will be at the bottom



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jneul on 01 October 2010
kowenicki said:
jneul said:
kowenicki said:

Are you saying its 390k and VGC are saying its 300k?

Apologies I havent been paying attention to move sales much...

Explain it to me again if you can.


No according to vgc 300k is only for starter kits, but work out about 25% of starter kits and that is your standalone figure as vgc said 25% of sales was standalone moves, but they was never added onto the running total...

I calculated mine differently by using attach ratio which currently is 80%, then work out 25% of that and add it on, make sense now?? (I hope it does)


So starter kits is 75%... and standalone 25%

The problem I have with any move tracking is that its a guess.

Standalone sales of 10,000 could be 10,000 users (very unlikley) or 5000 users.  Are people buying one or two? Are they buying one to go along with their starter kit?  In short... too many variables for this kind of tally to be accurate.

But I'm not going to rain on your parade... Carry on. 

 

 


I know what you mean it is not easy, if it is 25% for stand alones my figures are correct, it's not hard to believe that 72k people decided to get another controller or even just a controller for the eye that they already own

Infact I am betting over time it will increase for stand alones as more core games come out, there are at least 1 million eyeowners out there from eyepet and eye of judgement even before move came along, so there is quite alot of potential



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

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Ldn.se on 01 October 2010
jneul said:
kowenicki said:
jneul said:
kowenicki said:

Are you saying its 390k and VGC are saying its 300k?

Apologies I havent been paying attention to move sales much...

Explain it to me again if you can.


No according to vgc 300k is only for starter kits, but work out about 25% of starter kits and that is your standalone figure as vgc said 25% of sales was standalone moves, but they was never added onto the running total...

I calculated mine differently by using attach ratio which currently is 80%, then work out 25% of that and add it on, make sense now?? (I hope it does)


So starter kits is 75%... and standalone 25%

The problem I have with any move tracking is that its a guess.

Standalone sales of 10,000 could be 10,000 users (very unlikley) or 5000 users.  Are people buying one or two? Are they buying one to go along with their starter kit?  In short... too many variables for this kind of tally to be accurate.

But I'm not going to rain on your parade... Carry on. 

 

 


I know what you mean it is not easy, if it is 25% for stand alones my figures are correct, it's not hard to believe that 72k people decided to get another controller or even just a controller for the eye that they already own

Infact I am betting over time it will increase for stand alones as more core games come out, there are at least 1 million eyeowners out there from eyepet and eye of judgement even before move came along, so there is quite alot of potential

Good job Jneul. To the highlighted above add the active singstar players.



jneul on 01 October 2010
Ldn.se said:
jneul said:
kowenicki said:
jneul said:
kowenicki said:

Are you saying its 390k and VGC are saying its 300k?

Apologies I havent been paying attention to move sales much...

Explain it to me again if you can.


No according to vgc 300k is only for starter kits, but work out about 25% of starter kits and that is your standalone figure as vgc said 25% of sales was standalone moves, but they was never added onto the running total...

I calculated mine differently by using attach ratio which currently is 80%, then work out 25% of that and add it on, make sense now?? (I hope it does)


So starter kits is 75%... and standalone 25%

The problem I have with any move tracking is that its a guess.

Standalone sales of 10,000 could be 10,000 users (very unlikley) or 5000 users.  Are people buying one or two? Are they buying one to go along with their starter kit?  In short... too many variables for this kind of tally to be accurate.

But I'm not going to rain on your parade... Carry on. 

 

 


I know what you mean it is not easy, if it is 25% for stand alones my figures are correct, it's not hard to believe that 72k people decided to get another controller or even just a controller for the eye that they already own

Infact I am betting over time it will increase for stand alones as more core games come out, there are at least 1 million eyeowners out there from eyepet and eye of judgement even before move came along, so there is quite alot of potential

Good job Jneul. To the highlighted above add the active singstar players.

Sinstar sales oh yeah woops, yeah singstar sales should be even more eye's but we all get my point



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

The official Vita thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130023&page=1

ithis on 01 October 2010

...I don't get it..., but hey, if there are more move sales, I'm glad :)



VXIII on 01 October 2010

Your efforts are appreciated , but isn't it easier for you to stick with ioi figures ?

I mean they must more accurate than these .

Week 1 : 140 Move units plus 45 additional Move controllers ( 65  but 20 of them counted as "units" cause they've been bought by people with PSeye already)

Week 2 : 300 units

Or you could just add two charts in this thread for both your and VG numbers.