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irtz on 28 September 2010

yea its possible



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mundus6 on 28 September 2010
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

Well the PS3 will be dead sooner then most think. I give it two years tops..Sony is rumored to be burning the midnight oil hoping to get their Next Gen PS4 out alittle before MS's Next Gen console this time.. So i love all the speculation by too-blindly-loyal Sony fans that somehow someway everyone in the world is going to change their mind and go buy a PS3 just because (insert reason here) .. Yeah you're right PS3 is getting cheaper, problem is Xbox 360 is getting cheaper too.. Blu-ray is selling decent, but going by sales trends - it will never outsell DVD players or have the market share that DVD had in its peak ? Why ?? Its a different world.. Digital downloads are taking over, the optical business model is changing.. Someone important in the indistry recently said if customers have to choose between convience and better quality, they'll go with CONVIENCE.  I order 720P movies all the time on cable.. people use redbox and all sorts of media outlets that didnt exist back in DVD's hay-day.. the Music industry just 4 years ago still sold most music on disc.. but not anymore.. now downloads have overtaken media.. Is media dead - not by a long shot- but this is a trend that only a fool would ignore.. Most cable internet providers are only increasing ( you're seeing doubling and tripling ) download speeds over the next few years.. which means no waiting.. GT will likely sell millions, but it wont be anywhere near PS3's #1 seller COD MW2 ( 8.1 million units sold lifetime ) and it'll be NOWHERE near the console pushing Halo Reach ( that did 4.1 million in only FIVE days )


I understand but to some people quality is actually more important than convenience. I think blu ray will sell along side with digital media. The net xbox for sure will have a blu ray drive too. Anyways im not a a blind sony fan. Im not even a microsoft fan. However im supporting sony a little bit more this gen because imo they released a better quality product just like last gen i supported microsoft with the original xbox. Either way o own both ps3/xbox so it doesn't matter in the end of the day.

I loved the PS2, but product wise alot of Sony fans blindly trusted Sony.  In fact 360 has more powerful hardware.. Sony RSX GPU does only 250 million triangles a second versus 360's Xenos GPU which does 500 million triangles !  One reason many Sony exclusives jumped ship was not only because of profit margins ( less PS3 owners mean less profit from game development time then for Xbox 360 ) .. but also because 360 is much easier to program for.. Developers making games for PS3 have to work longer and harder to tap the power to make a game of similar quality to XB 360.. in other words it takes alot of optimizations on the PS3 ( like spe accelleration ) versus on the Xbox 360 they dont have to do anything special to get the same result.. 

Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
* The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
* Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
* The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
* Memory System Bandwidth
* The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times

Read more: http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html#ixzz10rXXUYI6

Here's some reading you might find interesting in PS3 versus Xbox 360 hardware: ( the anadtech stuff is more in depth

 http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/13
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/4


Triangles per second is not everything with a console. Its true however that overall 360 is actually a better hardware. But because of the complexity of the Cell, you can if you put down the time actually achieve remarkable resaults. 360 is generally better and easier to program for though i give it that much. But if say we where to let the best developers make the most optimized PS3 game and then make the most optimized 360 game, i think that PS3 version would actully be a bit better. None of this is relevant though, as a PC from 2006 beats both consoles hard. And Wii and is kicking everybodies ass and its a GC with a new controller.



rf40928 on 28 September 2010
mundus6 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

Well the PS3 will be dead sooner then most think. I give it two years tops..Sony is rumored to be burning the midnight oil hoping to get their Next Gen PS4 out alittle before MS's Next Gen console this time.. So i love all the speculation by too-blindly-loyal Sony fans that somehow someway everyone in the world is going to change their mind and go buy a PS3 just because (insert reason here) .. Yeah you're right PS3 is getting cheaper, problem is Xbox 360 is getting cheaper too.. Blu-ray is selling decent, but going by sales trends - it will never outsell DVD players or have the market share that DVD had in its peak ? Why ?? Its a different world.. Digital downloads are taking over, the optical business model is changing.. Someone important in the indistry recently said if customers have to choose between convience and better quality, they'll go with CONVIENCE.  I order 720P movies all the time on cable.. people use redbox and all sorts of media outlets that didnt exist back in DVD's hay-day.. the Music industry just 4 years ago still sold most music on disc.. but not anymore.. now downloads have overtaken media.. Is media dead - not by a long shot- but this is a trend that only a fool would ignore.. Most cable internet providers are only increasing ( you're seeing doubling and tripling ) download speeds over the next few years.. which means no waiting.. GT will likely sell millions, but it wont be anywhere near PS3's #1 seller COD MW2 ( 8.1 million units sold lifetime ) and it'll be NOWHERE near the console pushing Halo Reach ( that did 4.1 million in only FIVE days )


I understand but to some people quality is actually more important than convenience. I think blu ray will sell along side with digital media. The net xbox for sure will have a blu ray drive too. Anyways im not a a blind sony fan. Im not even a microsoft fan. However im supporting sony a little bit more this gen because imo they released a better quality product just like last gen i supported microsoft with the original xbox. Either way o own both ps3/xbox so it doesn't matter in the end of the day.

I loved the PS2, but product wise alot of Sony fans blindly trusted Sony.  In fact 360 has more powerful hardware.. Sony RSX GPU does only 250 million triangles a second versus 360's Xenos GPU which does 500 million triangles !  One reason many Sony exclusives jumped ship was not only because of profit margins ( less PS3 owners mean less profit from game development time then for Xbox 360 ) .. but also because 360 is much easier to program for.. Developers making games for PS3 have to work longer and harder to tap the power to make a game of similar quality to XB 360.. in other words it takes alot of optimizations on the PS3 ( like spe accelleration ) versus on the Xbox 360 they dont have to do anything special to get the same result.. 

Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
* The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
* Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
* The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
* Memory System Bandwidth
* The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times

Read more: http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html#ixzz10rXXUYI6

Here's some reading you might find interesting in PS3 versus Xbox 360 hardware: ( the anadtech stuff is more in depth

 http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/13
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/4


Triangles per second is not everything with a console. Its true however that overall 360 is actually a better hardware. But because of the complexity of the Cell, you can if you put down the time actually achieve remarkable resaults. 360 is generally better and easier to program for though i give it that much. But if say we where to let the best developers make the most optimized PS3 games and then make the most optimized 360 game, i think that PS3 version would actully be a bit better. None of this is relevant though, as a PC from 2006 beats both consoles hard. And Wii and is kicking everybodies ass and its a GC with a new controller.

Triangles are not everything ?  Evidentally you must be a Sony PR guy, because anyone making games will tell you when you comes to 'Graphics' and 'Picture quality' .. how many triangles can be pushed are darn near EVERYTHING !  Triangles are one reason why the Wii's graphics are far inferior to either console of this Generation...When you buy a graphics card today for your pc you're looking for one with the highest triangle pushing ability. End of story..

In all honestly the Sony Cell processor is better for things not suited to gaming.. Why the japanese chose it s more pure arrogance that everyone would use their optimizations and of course want to take alot more time making a game for them when the same thing could be done on the 360 is much less time.. Beleive it or not, its the truth.. PS2 was a good product and we probably remember it better because at the time it came along in the perfect storm.. It had a 1.5 year headstart on its only competition ( the under powered game cube ) and MS didnt decide to launch their 1st console till nearly two years after the PS2 launched..



Hynad on 28 September 2010
rf40928 said:

Triangles are not everything ?  Evidentally you must be a Sony PR guy, because anyone making games will tell you when you comes to 'Graphics' and 'Picture quality' .. how many triangles can be pushed are darn near EVERYTHING !  Triangles are one reason why the Wii's graphics are far inferior to either console of this Generation...When you buy a graphics card today for your pc you're looking for one with the highest triangle pushing ability. End of story..

In all honestly the Sony Cell processor is better for things not suited to gaming.. Why the japanese chose it s more pure arrogance that everyone would use their optimizations and of course want to take alot more time making a game for them when the same thing could be done on the 360 is much less time.. Beleive it or not, its the truth.. PS2 was a good product and we probably remember it better because at the time it came along in the perfect storm.. It had a 1.5 year headstart on its only competition ( the under powered game cube ) and MS didnt decide to launch their 1st console till nearly two years after the PS2 launched..

Ever heard the term bottleneck?  If so, re-evaluate the way you read both of the systems' specs and come back once you understand them.



SpartenOmega117 on 28 September 2010
rf40928 said:
mundus6 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

Well the PS3 will be dead sooner then most think. I give it two years tops..Sony is rumored to be burning the midnight oil hoping to get their Next Gen PS4 out alittle before MS's Next Gen console this time.. So i love all the speculation by too-blindly-loyal Sony fans that somehow someway everyone in the world is going to change their mind and go buy a PS3 just because (insert reason here) .. Yeah you're right PS3 is getting cheaper, problem is Xbox 360 is getting cheaper too.. Blu-ray is selling decent, but going by sales trends - it will never outsell DVD players or have the market share that DVD had in its peak ? Why ?? Its a different world.. Digital downloads are taking over, the optical business model is changing.. Someone important in the indistry recently said if customers have to choose between convience and better quality, they'll go with CONVIENCE.  I order 720P movies all the time on cable.. people use redbox and all sorts of media outlets that didnt exist back in DVD's hay-day.. the Music industry just 4 years ago still sold most music on disc.. but not anymore.. now downloads have overtaken media.. Is media dead - not by a long shot- but this is a trend that only a fool would ignore.. Most cable internet providers are only increasing ( you're seeing doubling and tripling ) download speeds over the next few years.. which means no waiting.. GT will likely sell millions, but it wont be anywhere near PS3's #1 seller COD MW2 ( 8.1 million units sold lifetime ) and it'll be NOWHERE near the console pushing Halo Reach ( that did 4.1 million in only FIVE days )


I understand but to some people quality is actually more important than convenience. I think blu ray will sell along side with digital media. The net xbox for sure will have a blu ray drive too. Anyways im not a a blind sony fan. Im not even a microsoft fan. However im supporting sony a little bit more this gen because imo they released a better quality product just like last gen i supported microsoft with the original xbox. Either way o own both ps3/xbox so it doesn't matter in the end of the day.

I loved the PS2, but product wise alot of Sony fans blindly trusted Sony.  In fact 360 has more powerful hardware.. Sony RSX GPU does only 250 million triangles a second versus 360's Xenos GPU which does 500 million triangles !  One reason many Sony exclusives jumped ship was not only because of profit margins ( less PS3 owners mean less profit from game development time then for Xbox 360 ) .. but also because 360 is much easier to program for.. Developers making games for PS3 have to work longer and harder to tap the power to make a game of similar quality to XB 360.. in other words it takes alot of optimizations on the PS3 ( like spe accelleration ) versus on the Xbox 360 they dont have to do anything special to get the same result.. 

Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
* The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
* Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
* The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
* Memory System Bandwidth
* The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times

Read more: http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html#ixzz10rXXUYI6

Here's some reading you might find interesting in PS3 versus Xbox 360 hardware: ( the anadtech stuff is more in depth

 http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/13
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/4


Triangles per second is not everything with a console. Its true however that overall 360 is actually a better hardware. But because of the complexity of the Cell, you can if you put down the time actually achieve remarkable resaults. 360 is generally better and easier to program for though i give it that much. But if say we where to let the best developers make the most optimized PS3 games and then make the most optimized 360 game, i think that PS3 version would actully be a bit better. None of this is relevant though, as a PC from 2006 beats both consoles hard. And Wii and is kicking everybodies ass and its a GC with a new controller.

Triangles are not everything ?  Evidentally you must be a Sony PR guy, because anyone making games will tell you when you comes to 'Graphics' and 'Picture quality' .. how many triangles can be pushed are darn near EVERYTHING !  Triangles are one reason why the Wii's graphics are far inferior to either console of this Generation...When you buy a graphics card today for your pc you're looking for one with the highest triangle pushing ability. End of story..

In all honestly the Sony Cell processor is better for things not suited to gaming.. Why the japanese chose it s more pure arrogance that everyone would use their optimizations and of course want to take alot more time making a game for them when the same thing could be done on the 360 is much less time.. Beleive it or not, its the truth.. PS2 was a good product and we probably remember it better because at the time it came along in the perfect storm.. It had a 1.5 year headstart on its only competition ( the under powered game cube ) and MS didnt decide to launch their 1st console till nearly two years after the PS2 launched..

we can argue about who has better graphics cards and the cell architecture all we want but we can't argue that the ps3 has pumped out some amazing quality looking games. Uncharted 2 was made in 2 years and it is arguably the best console looking console game to date. How can you explain that? And im sure Naughty dog is not a huge team either. Killzone 2 to 3 will also take 2 years.  Really the only ones that have take 4 years to release a game this gen are the devs in japan. Also when i say sony released a better quality product this gen i meant performace wise and bang for your buck wise. It took microsoft 4 years to perfect 360 hardware to a level where the console won't randomly die out on you. It seemed as if the components in the 360 didn't work well together for the 1st couple of years.



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Viper1 on 28 September 2010
rf40928 said:

Triangles are not everything ?  Evidentally you must be a Sony PR guy, because anyone making games will tell you when you comes to 'Graphics' and 'Picture quality' .. how many triangles can be pushed are darn near EVERYTHING !  Triangles are one reason why the Wii's graphics are far inferior to either console of this Generation...When you buy a graphics card today for your pc you're looking for one with the highest triangle pushing ability. End of story..

You don't know much about computer graphics, do you?  Textures and shaders matter more than polygons now.

And entire Velociraptor in Jurassic Park was just 100,000 polygons.  It was the intest texture and shader work that gave it the details.

The reason the Wii's graphics are so inferior to the PS3/X360 is not polygon count (Wii actually pushes a lot of polygons) but because the HD consoles offer hgih programable shaders and high resolution textures.  The Wii uses an old fixed function pipeline and low resolution textures.



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mundus6 on 29 September 2010
rf40928 said:
mundus6 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
rf40928 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

Well the PS3 will be dead sooner then most think. I give it two years tops..Sony is rumored to be burning the midnight oil hoping to get their Next Gen PS4 out alittle before MS's Next Gen console this time.. So i love all the speculation by too-blindly-loyal Sony fans that somehow someway everyone in the world is going to change their mind and go buy a PS3 just because (insert reason here) .. Yeah you're right PS3 is getting cheaper, problem is Xbox 360 is getting cheaper too.. Blu-ray is selling decent, but going by sales trends - it will never outsell DVD players or have the market share that DVD had in its peak ? Why ?? Its a different world.. Digital downloads are taking over, the optical business model is changing.. Someone important in the indistry recently said if customers have to choose between convience and better quality, they'll go with CONVIENCE.  I order 720P movies all the time on cable.. people use redbox and all sorts of media outlets that didnt exist back in DVD's hay-day.. the Music industry just 4 years ago still sold most music on disc.. but not anymore.. now downloads have overtaken media.. Is media dead - not by a long shot- but this is a trend that only a fool would ignore.. Most cable internet providers are only increasing ( you're seeing doubling and tripling ) download speeds over the next few years.. which means no waiting.. GT will likely sell millions, but it wont be anywhere near PS3's #1 seller COD MW2 ( 8.1 million units sold lifetime ) and it'll be NOWHERE near the console pushing Halo Reach ( that did 4.1 million in only FIVE days )


I understand but to some people quality is actually more important than convenience. I think blu ray will sell along side with digital media. The net xbox for sure will have a blu ray drive too. Anyways im not a a blind sony fan. Im not even a microsoft fan. However im supporting sony a little bit more this gen because imo they released a better quality product just like last gen i supported microsoft with the original xbox. Either way o own both ps3/xbox so it doesn't matter in the end of the day.

I loved the PS2, but product wise alot of Sony fans blindly trusted Sony.  In fact 360 has more powerful hardware.. Sony RSX GPU does only 250 million triangles a second versus 360's Xenos GPU which does 500 million triangles !  One reason many Sony exclusives jumped ship was not only because of profit margins ( less PS3 owners mean less profit from game development time then for Xbox 360 ) .. but also because 360 is much easier to program for.. Developers making games for PS3 have to work longer and harder to tap the power to make a game of similar quality to XB 360.. in other words it takes alot of optimizations on the PS3 ( like spe accelleration ) versus on the Xbox 360 they dont have to do anything special to get the same result.. 

Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
* The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
* Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
* The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
* Memory System Bandwidth
* The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times

Read more: http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html#ixzz10rXXUYI6

Here's some reading you might find interesting in PS3 versus Xbox 360 hardware: ( the anadtech stuff is more in depth

 http://www.guruht.com/2008/03/ps3-vs-xbox360-gpu-performance.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/13
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1719/4


Triangles per second is not everything with a console. Its true however that overall 360 is actually a better hardware. But because of the complexity of the Cell, you can if you put down the time actually achieve remarkable resaults. 360 is generally better and easier to program for though i give it that much. But if say we where to let the best developers make the most optimized PS3 games and then make the most optimized 360 game, i think that PS3 version would actully be a bit better. None of this is relevant though, as a PC from 2006 beats both consoles hard. And Wii and is kicking everybodies ass and its a GC with a new controller.

Triangles are not everything ?  Evidentally you must be a Sony PR guy, because anyone making games will tell you when you comes to 'Graphics' and 'Picture quality' .. how many triangles can be pushed are darn near EVERYTHING !  Triangles are one reason why the Wii's graphics are far inferior to either console of this Generation...When you buy a graphics card today for your pc you're looking for one with the highest triangle pushing ability. End of story..

In all honestly the Sony Cell processor is better for things not suited to gaming.. Why the japanese chose it s more pure arrogance that everyone would use their optimizations and of course want to take alot more time making a game for them when the same thing could be done on the 360 is much less time.. Beleive it or not, its the truth.. PS2 was a good product and we probably remember it better because at the time it came along in the perfect storm.. It had a 1.5 year headstart on its only competition ( the under powered game cube ) and MS didnt decide to launch their 1st console till nearly two years after the PS2 launched


Yes Triangles isn't everything if it where, then you could just buy the graphics card which offers more triangles and completely ignore other feature such as clocking speed and processing power... Your computer exists of a wide variety of componets, all of them are important for how good your computer is not just the number of triangles. And how is GC underpower? It actually was more powerful than the Xbox and it came in 3rd place so if there was 1 "competitor" it was the Xbox. Get your facts straight, since you are looking like an idiot.



Apollian on 29 September 2010

the PS3 has never outsold the 360 in the UK, and it never will!



A203D on 29 September 2010
Seece said:
A203D said:
Seece said:
A203D said:

Okay fair enough, i wasnt aware of the 130 mil lead, my point was based on cmeese47 said, its logical that this is the case because of the 10mil lead in US. sadly you are right, how ever many awards or perfect scores those games get its unlikely they will sway the competition. however i think we're in for a few supprises next year!!

yes i think that Gears is the only HIGH profile game coming to the 360 next year, the only other thing would be Forza 4 Kinect or Halo Reach ODST; nothing else has been announced. the gladiator thing you mentioned is based on a hack n slash market which is no where near the strenght of the FPS on the 360.

Nowhere has Kingdoms been called a hack n slash to my knowledge. XCOM is from the Bioshock team, and we've yet to see what 343 industries are up to, it might be something bigger than we think. Of course 3rd party games can't be ruled out, whichever they are. If you think MS are going from May to Dec with no top tier exclusives then I don't know what to say, if they can't get one from a first party, they'll get one from a third, they've never gone a holiday season since 2006 without one.

I assumed being based on a gladiator thing it would be hack n slash, either way i suppose it could be the big release for holiday 2010. i think MS have said the Kinect will increase the 360 lifespan another 5 years, so i take it that means a LOT of their releases next year will be based around kinect. and probabily more shooters.

although i have no idea, we'll see how things go next year, i think we might get a few supprises from both companies, kinect pre orders are high apparently, it will be interesting to see what software sells well on it!!

Well like I said, 60% sure ive seen a comment saying it isn't. Hopefulyl it isn't cos I hate hack n slashes!

MS have stated they have big exclusives in the pipeline (3rd party ones), wouldn't surprise me if Bioshock Infinite went exclusive and something else, MS are going to be making a shit ton f money in the gaming division from now on, they'll have more cash to splash.

Well we discussed this a lot, i'm sure you dont care anymore, and neither do i, so whatever happens it will be interesting to see what 3rd party developers come with for kinect, and whatever exclusives they have in the pipeline.



Alby_da_Wolf on 29 September 2010

About this gen ending early: every competitor, Ninty, MS and Sony, due to the awkward, jumping up and down, almost unpredictable sales patterns risks heavy drawbacks either from releasing next gen early or late, so the PC could benefit from their harsh fight and troubles and make a huge comeback.

 

Yes, you guessed it right, consoles are D0MED!!!   



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