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dejelek on 21 September 2010

great xbox 360 sales, so basically NA region it will be > 200K



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Metallicube on 21 September 2010
steverhcp02 said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.

I would say its packed it in you HOPE. Id hardly say the Move launch in September is evidence of a burial by any means considering the PS3 has yet to drop below $299 yet.

I don't think a price drop is going to magically boost the PS3 up to PS2 levels. If the PS3 lacks games that appeal to the average consumer a price drop isn't going to change that. Also, I didn't say it would die after 5 years, but come on, I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that it will decline after that, as the other two consoles will. Though much of that depends on how much Sony plans on supporting the console. If they are really serious about their "10 year plan"and don't release PS4 until 2016 while providing a steady supply of PS3 games until then, then I guess it could still go on strong for awhile longer. But it remains to be seen if the console will actually sell for 10 years.

Notice nobody got upset when I mentioned that Wii will be in major decline next year. For some reason PS3 is off limits in terms of criticism for some people..



psrock on 21 September 2010
Seece said:
psrock said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.


You heard it here first folks, a $299 console with GT5 to arrive in November is dead, dead I tell you.

I've never read so much biased drivel in all my life, and that's saying something for this forum lol

It's crazy that people haven't realize that MS is not Sony. MS will do whatever it takes to make Kinect sussessful, it's going to be everywhere, and the media will advertise this thing for being "new". If anyone think Kinect won't do well, they are in for big disapointment.



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Seece on 21 September 2010
Metallicube said:
steverhcp02 said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.

I would say its packed it in you HOPE. Id hardly say the Move launch in September is evidence of a burial by any means considering the PS3 has yet to drop below $299 yet.

I don't think a price drop is going to magically boost the PS3 up to PS2 levels. If the PS3 lacks games that appeal to the average consumer a price drop isn't going to change that. Also, I didn't say it would die after 5 years, but I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that it will decline after that, as the other two consoles will. Though much of that depends on how much Sony plans on supporting the console. If they are really serious about their "10 year plan"and don't release PS4 until 2016 while providing a steady supply of PS3 games, then I guess it could still go on strong for awhile longer. But it remains to be seen if the console will actually sell for 10 years.

Notice nobody got upset when I mentioned that will will be in major decline next year. God forbid say anything that might be negative about the mighty PS3.

It's more logical Wii will be in decline next year though, even I think PS3 sales will boom again when it hits $199. I think were Microsoft and Sony try harder they'll reap the benefits and both outlast the Wii. IMO



 

steverhcp02 on 21 September 2010
Metallicube said:
steverhcp02 said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.

I would say its packed it in you HOPE. Id hardly say the Move launch in September is evidence of a burial by any means considering the PS3 has yet to drop below $299 yet.

I don't think a price drop is going to magically boost the PS3 up to PS2 levels. If the PS3 lacks games that appeal to the average consumer a price drop isn't going to change that. Also, I didn't say it would die after 5 years, but I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that it will decline after that, as the other two consoles will. Though much of that depends on how much Sony plans on supporting the console. If they are really serious about their "10 year plan"and don't release PS4 until 2016 while providing a steady supply of PS3 games, then I guess it could still go on strong for awhile longer. But it remains to be seen if the console will actually sell for 10 years.

Notice nobody got upset when I mentioned that will will be in major decline next year. God forbid say anything that might be negative about the mighty PS3.


no one does. perhaps you should clarify your comments better.

your last comment just shows youre looking for a fight so have a good night.




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GuyDuke on 21 September 2010
Beuli2 said:

Nintendo really screwd up (yet again) their mommentum by releasing bad software...

Intead of releasing games like Galaxy the Lost levels and Metroid: Sakamoto's Crap Version, they should laucnh games that continued their momentum, now it's gonna be hard for them to recover.

If they hadn't screwd up so badly, they would be above the the PS3 and 360 in the last weeks (excluding this week for the XBox360)

shut up. Galaxy 2 is rated higher than Halo Reach and in fact, is the second highest rated game of the generation behind its own predecessor.



BHR-3 on 21 September 2010
psrock said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.


You heard it here first folks, a $299 console with GT5 to arrive in November is dead, dead I tell you.

really? what about next year with possibly a $199 console? i dont have that shit in the sig for nothing

i see wii sales picking up a bit after this so call lull but not by much, Leo-J might regain his status after losing PS3>120k and GTA4 killing the wii and whatever else he failed with so good for him

agreed about the wii in steady decline for 2011 dont think it will take the top spot next year for total WW sales either



                                                             

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Seece on 21 September 2010
psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.


You heard it here first folks, a $299 console with GT5 to arrive in November is dead, dead I tell you.

I've never read so much biased drivel in all my life, and that's saying something for this forum lol

It's crazy that people haven't realize that MS is not Sony. MS will do whatever it takes to make Kinect sussessful, it's going to be everywhere, and the media will advertise this thing for being "new". If anyone think Kinect won't do well, they are in for big disapointment.

Yup, if it's noot up to scratch sales will start diving after it's 2nd holiday season, if it's received similarly to Wii then I havn't got a clue. But tbh, I see Kinect and Move both having much stronger line ups for xmas 2011, and both having price cuts, and there being nothing Nintendo can do except release the Wii 2.

And no, don't somebody pipe in about 3DS, I'm talking about home consoles.



 

Beuli2 on 21 September 2010
guiduc said:
Beuli2 said:

Nintendo really screwd up (yet again) their mommentum by releasing bad software...

Intead of releasing games like Galaxy the Lost levels and Metroid: Sakamoto's Crap Version, they should launch games that continued their momentum, now it's gonna be hard for them to recover.

If they hadn't screwd up so badly, they would be above the the PS3 and 360 in the last weeks (excluding this week for the XBox360)

shut up. Galaxy 2 is rated higher than Halo Reach and in fact, is the second highest rated game of the generation behind its own predecessor.

Here comes the crazy dude that doesn't even try to read what I say and I don't have patience enought to explain what I already said.

Also, what's up with NSMB DS up there?

 

Edit: I'm going to explain to you because I have nothing better to do:

I don't  give a shit to either Galaxy 2 or Reach scores, because I don't trust reviews since they are biased and easily can be paid to favor a game. And you know I mean that they didn't release aboslutely no software to sell Wiis. The Wii has been selling on games already released last year, none of the games released this year helped it. Then you wonder "OMG Wii is so low...". It's Nintendo and only Nintendo fault for releasing uninteressant software that keeps the audience excited to buy a Wii.



Above: still the best game of the year.

Metallicube on 21 September 2010
Seece said:
Metallicube said:
steverhcp02 said:
Metallicube said:

PS3 has pretty much packed it in I think. The Move as I expected, had a very minimal impact on sales, and Sony has used up most of their cards. MS can milk the 360 a little longer, despite being a year older, with the new console model, Halo Reach, and Kinect. While I don't think Kinect will have a lasting impact either, it will provide a much bigger initial spike in hardware than Move.

Wii is entering the final weeks of its lull until starting to pick up for the holdiay season and the onslaught of Wii titles for Q4, with Kirby, Goldeneye, Wii Party, Just Dance 2, Epic Mickey, DKC, Carnival Games 2, NBA Jam, etc.  Wii has suffered this year having to rely almost entirely on the continued lift of NSMB, considering it basically had no hardware movers this year. While Wii will definitly have huge sales again this holiday, I think it is starting to age, and will be in pretty steady decline after the holiday. Though at the same time, I honestly don't see the HD consoles lasting too far beyond the typical 5-6 year cycle either, especially if Move and Kinect are flops like I expect.

I would say its packed it in you HOPE. Id hardly say the Move launch in September is evidence of a burial by any means considering the PS3 has yet to drop below $299 yet.

I don't think a price drop is going to magically boost the PS3 up to PS2 levels. If the PS3 lacks games that appeal to the average consumer a price drop isn't going to change that. Also, I didn't say it would die after 5 years, but I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that it will decline after that, as the other two consoles will. Though much of that depends on how much Sony plans on supporting the console. If they are really serious about their "10 year plan"and don't release PS4 until 2016 while providing a steady supply of PS3 games, then I guess it could still go on strong for awhile longer. But it remains to be seen if the console will actually sell for 10 years.

Notice nobody got upset when I mentioned that will will be in major decline next year. God forbid say anything that might be negative about the mighty PS3.

It's more logical Wii will be in decline next year though, even I think PS3 sales will boom again when it hits $199. I think Where Microsoft and Sony try harder they'll reap the benefits and both outlast the Wii. IMO

The console that sells the most usually lasts the longest. I'm just going with common sense. People still make the mistake of believing that more powerful hardware = longer lifespan when history hasn't proven this at all. In fact, it generally shows the opposite is true. As I said, ultimately Sony will be the main factor as to how long the PS3 lasts, as will Nintendo with Wii. If they keep releasing compelling games for their consoles and don't cut the life short by releasing a new one, they could last longer.