Commercially Nintendo (Brain Training, Nintendogs, Wii Sports/Fit/etc, Professor Layton,  etc) and even Microsoft (Gears of War) have been way more successful.  Sony hasn't even had a new IP crack 5m yet, while Microsoft has and Nintendo's had multiple ones manage it.

if you go by sales then wii sports is the best game of all time. uncharted is by far the best new ip this gen

yeah cuz we all think quantity = quality right?

I heard just dance is so much better than many games out there

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what nonsense

It can vary.  Seiken Densetsu started out as a FF spinoff, but it eventually it evolved into it's own brand.  Same thing with Mario Bros. and DK, and now Mario's the bigger IP.  Is something like Kingdom Hearts an original IP, even though it's core appeal is based off Disney licenses?

Folklore is different, it's part of a whole consistent universe and timeline (and was developed as such).  The first game in the franchise was Jewel Summoner on PSP (by Gaia).  I guess that's more in line with franchises like Megaten (are SMT, Persona, Devil Summoner, etc each considered unique IPs? I'd say in some ways yes, in some ways no.), which coincidentally is what the people at Gaia previously worked on.  Maybe something like Matsuno's Ivalice Alliance (FFT/A series, FFXII/RW, Vagrant Story) or Ogre Battle Saga would be similar.

For TLG (ie: TRICO), I'd say it's part of the same franchise as ICO or SOTC (ie: NICO).  All the games are fundamentally related, they're all from the same team, though they're all somewhat different too.  Being in a new genre, or having an unnumbered title doesn't mean something isn't a sequel.

I'm not arguing quality, I'm arguing commerical success.  A lot seems to get made of Sony's new IPs being modest successes sales wise, where as Nintendo and MS have both made new IPs that not only did better, but they have many, many more new IPs that have done comparably to Sony's better selling new IPs (Crackdown, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Rhythm Heaven, Endless Ocean, Tomodachi Collection, etc, etc) that tend to go unmentioned. 

Why bring up ME? that game did way way less than impressive...another great example where a good quality game not getting the sale it deseves

Games like UC, LBP, HR, inFamous and so on have done so well....and overall if you look at it collectively PS3 had a pretty impressive start for those new IPs...and it will only will get better..if you check their upcoming line up of games, next year is going to be huge for them exclusive wise

and also considering the market share they have compared to the wii...wouldn't you agree they have done really well? Especially it's only now (well since about an year ago) that they have started to pick up good momentum?

last gen mario or zelda wasn't enough to do much for nintendo..

just be glad this gen they somehow became the most popular games once again..

ME outsold every new IP Sony's published except Uncharted, LBP, Resistance and MotorStorm.  And all those games were bundled to hell, and two were mostly pushed due to being launch titles.  If that's "less than impressive" what's that say about Sony's games?  What's that say about Heavy Rain, inFamous, etc?

I do think Sony's been doing well with new IPs, but I'd say they've always done well with new IPs, so in some ways this really isn't 'new'.  I think my favorite period for SCE is still the PSone era, when we got genuinely new IPs and concepts like Parappa, GT, Carnage Heart, Jumping Flash and tons of really unique and interesting games.  These days I think a lot of that pioneering spirit has been lost or shifted, and it correlates to the (relative) fall of their Japan Studio, which is also probably why I'm not so enthusiastic about modern SCE.  That experimental 'spirit' seems to have weirdly transferred to Nintendo actually, with stuff like Elite Beat Agents, electroplankton, Wii Fit, etc.  More oddball, more experimental, even if it doesn't always pan out for them.

You said ME has done comparably well to sony new IPs and yet you mention 4 games that have outsold it? really now? and HR not only did it destroy everyones expectations for a niche game it WILL outsell ME at soem point, for certain.

and endless ocean? lost O? did you check their numbers before saying they did comprably 'better' than sony new IPS? Heck even infamous did more than crackdown 1 and 2 (so far)....doesn't matter how you spin it but no most of those games you mentioned have not done as well as Sony New IP's...

And again, some of these games like infamous came out when ps3 was having trouble....it's only now they have picked up steam and moving ahead (the number of users I mean) so it will only get better for them now onwards...

I was just throwing out some comparable games, stuff that sold in the area of 500k-4m, which seems to be Sony's range for successful new IPs.  Why did you deride Mass Effect's sales and then list two games that sold less than it?

inFamous flopped upfront btw... it's done well as a catalog release though, probably in large part due to the $299/slim fueled PS3 resurgence.  Bundling and price drops probably helped quite a bit too, that really seems to be a key part in Sony's success formula for pushing new 1st party IPs (LBP, Motorstorm, Uncharted, etc).  They never seem to start out strong, but they eventually crawl to impressive figures.  Heavy Rain was actually something of an exception to that, it really came out strong from the start.