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zgamer5 on 10 August 2010
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:

If Sony paid me $50, I'd steal a PS3. <3

and then sell it?


It's not theft if it's a gift.  And no, I'd save it for The Last Guardian. <3


so 50$ so you can pre order the last guardian and a ps3. sony are generous.

i want gifts :(

Yeah, it'd be nice. :/

Honestly though, the real reason I don't have a PS3 is time.  Most of the games I want are also on my 360 anyway, so it gets hard to justify the additional investment (both money and time) for just the handful of exclusives I'd be into (Valkyria, 3DGH, Yakuza 3/4, Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, Ninokuni).

Between Tactics Ogre and the flood of Ys games though, I may just have to bite on a PSP.  Those are basically killer apps for me.

wow 7 games thats more then a handful. buy a psp then pirate it, youl save yourself some money. both of those games dont have a multiplayer so you could play them all you want.



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jarrod on 10 August 2010
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:

If Sony paid me $50, I'd steal a PS3. <3

and then sell it?


It's not theft if it's a gift.  And no, I'd save it for The Last Guardian. <3


so 50$ so you can pre order the last guardian and a ps3. sony are generous.

i want gifts :(

Yeah, it'd be nice. :/

Honestly though, the real reason I don't have a PS3 is time.  Most of the games I want are also on my 360 anyway, so it gets hard to justify the additional investment (both money and time) for just the handful of exclusives I'd be into (Valkyria, 3DGH, Yakuza 3/4, Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, Ninokuni).

Between Tactics Ogre and the flood of Ys games though, I may just have to bite on a PSP.  Those are basically killer apps for me.

wow 7 games thats more then a handful. buy a psp then pirate it, youl save yourself some money. both of those games dont have a multiplayer so you could play them all you want.

7 games isn't much.  If I didn't already have a 360, there'd be tons more, but as is I can't really justify another console for just 7 games.  And none are personal killer apps for me.

I mean comparatively, there's probably been like 30 plus PSP exclusives I've been interested in over the years, just none enough to really push me over the edge.  Well, until now.



M.U.G.E.N on 10 August 2010
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

all other genre 'imo' gets better games on the HD twins so nope

I think you can make a strong case for action/adventure/RPGs on Wii.  MH3, Twilight Princess, Okami, Cave Story, Muramasa, Rune Factory, Super Paper Mario, Fragile Dreams, etc.  Plus there's a mountain of great stuff on the Virtual Console too (Zelda 1-3/OOT/MM, Neutopia 1-2, Ys Books I&II, Beyond Oasis, Monster World 1-3, LandStalker, etc).  And coming up we still have games like Skyward Sword, La Mulana and Earth Seeker.  It's pretty easily my favorite genre, and one that been progressively dying since the 16bit era imo, so Wii's been a nice refresher comparatively.

I'm not saying it doesn't HAVE games that are good for other genre, but in comparison (mainly due to lack of 3rd party support I think) it's lagging behind the competition now 'imo'....may it be FPS, TPS, Action/adventure, RPG, Strategy, Racing, Hack/slash etc, they all have atleast one good game on the wii for sure, but not as many compared to HD twins 'as of now'..and there are several games that was on the wii that was non-platformers and which were exclusive at one point going multi plat...like NBA Jam or Dead Space (which ps3 owners actually get for free now)

Oh, I'm not saying you are.  I'm saying in this specific genre, Wii also comes out ahead imo.  PS3 does decently with the From Soft exclusives (Demon's Souls, 3DGH), then there's Nier on both systems, and Infinite Undiscovery on 360, the always great SotN on XBLA and PSClassics, but otherwise the HD twins are pretty dry.  I wish Falcom would start porting their titles to PSN/XBLA. :/


I disagree on that, compared what the HD twins have now and their upcoming line up, it easily wins ahead of the wii line up of non platformers, easily..let's wait till GC and TGS are over and do a list war if you like :)

as for RPGs your forgetting games like Valkyria Chronicles, Fallout, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, FF13/14 and Vs., Oblivion, Fable, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean etc...I'm not the biggest RPG fan but these games offer a more varied, diverse experience than what's offerred on the wii as of now

btw what does 'soft' exclusives mean?



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Slimebeast on 10 August 2010
jarrod said:
Slimebeast said:

If Zelda was made to run with ordinary controllers I'd buy a Wii at $149. Also if Kirby and Donky kong was for regular controller that would strengthen my incentive.

But as I understand it Zelda, DKC and Kireby require motion controls? I feel motion controls are sloppy. I want to play classical games with classical controlls.

You could just buy the GCN version of Twilight Princess and play it on your Wii if you want classic controls.  Personally, the improved aiming for distance weapons makes the waggle swordplay (which is slightly annoying, but not really a big issue) worth it imo.  Lack of camera control wasn't really an issue either, EAD has some of the best autocams of any dev.

DKC and Kirby use motion 'shakes' for singular actions, like NSMB or Wario Land.... they're all playable using the Wiimote NES style afaik, which is about as classic as it gets honestly.

I meant the new Zelda but yeah I would like to play TwilitePrinces too.

I can't play with Wiimote. I wanna play like I did with the N64, a controller with a stick.

I guess I have to skip Nintendo this generation then.



jarrod on 10 August 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

all other genre 'imo' gets better games on the HD twins so nope

I think you can make a strong case for action/adventure/RPGs on Wii.  MH3, Twilight Princess, Okami, Cave Story, Muramasa, Rune Factory, Super Paper Mario, Fragile Dreams, etc.  Plus there's a mountain of great stuff on the Virtual Console too (Zelda 1-3/OOT/MM, Neutopia 1-2, Ys Books I&II, Beyond Oasis, Monster World 1-3, LandStalker, etc).  And coming up we still have games like Skyward Sword, La Mulana and Earth Seeker.  It's pretty easily my favorite genre, and one that been progressively dying since the 16bit era imo, so Wii's been a nice refresher comparatively.

I'm not saying it doesn't HAVE games that are good for other genre, but in comparison (mainly due to lack of 3rd party support I think) it's lagging behind the competition now 'imo'....may it be FPS, TPS, Action/adventure, RPG, Strategy, Racing, Hack/slash etc, they all have atleast one good game on the wii for sure, but not as many compared to HD twins 'as of now'..and there are several games that was on the wii that was non-platformers and which were exclusive at one point going multi plat...like NBA Jam or Dead Space (which ps3 owners actually get for free now)

Oh, I'm not saying you are.  I'm saying in this specific genre, Wii also comes out ahead imo.  PS3 does decently with the From Soft exclusives (Demon's Souls, 3DGH), then there's Nier on both systems, and Infinite Undiscovery on 360, the always great SotN on XBLA and PSClassics, but otherwise the HD twins are pretty dry.  I wish Falcom would start porting their titles to PSN/XBLA. :/


I disagree on that, compared what the HD twins have now and their upcoming line up, it easily wins ahead of the wii line up of non platformers, easily..let's wait till GC and TGS are over and do a list war if you like :)

as for RPGs your forgetting games like Valkyria Chronicles, Fallout, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, FF13/14 and Vs., Oblivion, Fable, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean etc...I'm not the biggest RPG fan but these games offer a more varied, diverse experience than what's offerred on the wii as of now

btw what does 'soft' exclusives mean?

I'm not talking RPGs, WRPGs, SRPGs, MMORPGs or any other variant of those, I'm talking specifically classic action RPGs.  As in Zelda-likes, dungeon crawlers (besides Roguelikes, which Wii also wins at btw) and that sort of stuff.  Stuff like Ys, Terranigma, Kingdom Hearts, Alundra, Dark Cloud, LandStalker, Secret of Mana, Neutopia, Popful Mail, etc, etc... that sort of thing.  I guess you could call it a subgenre, but I'd say the same of 2D platformers, or platformers in general (they're action games).

And that's From Soft, as in Software, not soft exclusives.



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jarrod on 10 August 2010
Slimebeast said:
jarrod said:
Slimebeast said:

If Zelda was made to run with ordinary controllers I'd buy a Wii at $149. Also if Kirby and Donky kong was for regular controller that would strengthen my incentive.

But as I understand it Zelda, DKC and Kireby require motion controls? I feel motion controls are sloppy. I want to play classical games with classical controlls.

You could just buy the GCN version of Twilight Princess and play it on your Wii if you want classic controls.  Personally, the improved aiming for distance weapons makes the waggle swordplay (which is slightly annoying, but not really a big issue) worth it imo.  Lack of camera control wasn't really an issue either, EAD has some of the best autocams of any dev.

DKC and Kirby use motion 'shakes' for singular actions, like NSMB or Wario Land.... they're all playable using the Wiimote NES style afaik, which is about as classic as it gets honestly.

I meant the new Zelda but yeah I would like to play TwilitePrinces too.

I can't play with Wiimote. I wanna play like I did with the N64, a controller with a stick.

I guess I have to skip Nintendo this generation then.

Well, you still use a stick. :P

Yeah, the new Zelda would be hard to translate though, as it's being designed around the 1:1 control scheme, and I'm guessing stuff around pointer controls will be tweaked (making any transition to slower left analog too difficult).  It'd be like translating Wii Sports to a game pad, I dunno how they'd do it without changing the whole game. :/



zgamer5 on 10 August 2010
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:

If Sony paid me $50, I'd steal a PS3. <3

and then sell it?


It's not theft if it's a gift.  And no, I'd save it for The Last Guardian. <3


so 50$ so you can pre order the last guardian and a ps3. sony are generous.

i want gifts :(

Yeah, it'd be nice. :/

Honestly though, the real reason I don't have a PS3 is time.  Most of the games I want are also on my 360 anyway, so it gets hard to justify the additional investment (both money and time) for just the handful of exclusives I'd be into (Valkyria, 3DGH, Yakuza 3/4, Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, Ninokuni).

Between Tactics Ogre and the flood of Ys games though, I may just have to bite on a PSP.  Those are basically killer apps for me.

wow 7 games thats more then a handful. buy a psp then pirate it, youl save yourself some money. both of those games dont have a multiplayer so you could play them all you want.

7 games isn't much.  If I didn't already have a 360, there'd be tons more, but as is I can't really justify another console for just 7 games.  And none are personal killer apps for me.

I mean comparatively, there's probably been like 30 plus PSP exclusives I've been interested in over the years, just none enough to really push me over the edge.  Well, until now.

well have fun buying 30 games. 

if i had 7 games which interest me in the wii i would have gotten it by now. its getting closer and closer each year.



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BoneArk on 10 August 2010

I don't think HD owners will ever buy a Wii.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

jarrod on 10 August 2010
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:

If Sony paid me $50, I'd steal a PS3. <3

and then sell it?


It's not theft if it's a gift.  And no, I'd save it for The Last Guardian. <3


so 50$ so you can pre order the last guardian and a ps3. sony are generous.

i want gifts :(

Yeah, it'd be nice. :/

Honestly though, the real reason I don't have a PS3 is time.  Most of the games I want are also on my 360 anyway, so it gets hard to justify the additional investment (both money and time) for just the handful of exclusives I'd be into (Valkyria, 3DGH, Yakuza 3/4, Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, Ninokuni).

Between Tactics Ogre and the flood of Ys games though, I may just have to bite on a PSP.  Those are basically killer apps for me.

wow 7 games thats more then a handful. buy a psp then pirate it, youl save yourself some money. both of those games dont have a multiplayer so you could play them all you want.

7 games isn't much.  If I didn't already have a 360, there'd be tons more, but as is I can't really justify another console for just 7 games.  And none are personal killer apps for me.

I mean comparatively, there's probably been like 30 plus PSP exclusives I've been interested in over the years, just none enough to really push me over the edge.  Well, until now.

well have fun buying 30 games. 

if i had 7 games which interest me in the wii i would have gotten it by now. its getting closer and closer each year.

Those games are all pretty cheap now.  It's like latter day Dreamcast, everything's a steal. <3

We all have different tastes and standards.  If I didn't already have over 30 Wii games, and untold numbers of WiiWare/VC downloads, I might have time for that PS3...



zgamer5 on 10 August 2010
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:
zgamer5 said:
jarrod said:

If Sony paid me $50, I'd steal a PS3. <3

and then sell it?


It's not theft if it's a gift.  And no, I'd save it for The Last Guardian. <3


so 50$ so you can pre order the last guardian and a ps3. sony are generous.

i want gifts :(

Yeah, it'd be nice. :/

Honestly though, the real reason I don't have a PS3 is time.  Most of the games I want are also on my 360 anyway, so it gets hard to justify the additional investment (both money and time) for just the handful of exclusives I'd be into (Valkyria, 3DGH, Yakuza 3/4, Last Guardian, Demon's Souls, Ninokuni).

Between Tactics Ogre and the flood of Ys games though, I may just have to bite on a PSP.  Those are basically killer apps for me.

wow 7 games thats more then a handful. buy a psp then pirate it, youl save yourself some money. both of those games dont have a multiplayer so you could play them all you want.

7 games isn't much.  If I didn't already have a 360, there'd be tons more, but as is I can't really justify another console for just 7 games.  And none are personal killer apps for me.

I mean comparatively, there's probably been like 30 plus PSP exclusives I've been interested in over the years, just none enough to really push me over the edge.  Well, until now.

well have fun buying 30 games. 

if i had 7 games which interest me in the wii i would have gotten it by now. its getting closer and closer each year.

Those games are all pretty cheap now.  It's like latter day Dreamcast, everything's a steal. <3

We all have different tastes and standards.  If I didn't already have over 30 Wii games, and untold numbers of WiiWare/VC downloads, I might have time for that PS3...

i have time to play games, but i waste it on vgchartz, damn this forum. i guess my goal of completing everything in oblivion in 3 months aint going to happen.



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