if it was just 10m like GT4 then GTA5 will surely pass it

modern warfare 2 sold 8.33m on the ps3. gt5s pre orders are about the same as mw2s pre orders in america with no advertising unlike what mw2 had during the nba playoffs (american sport). gt5 will be much bigger than mw2 in japan. gt5 will be bigger in emeaa and will be heavily bundled(obviously) so i dont know whats with the worrying and doubting.

Am I the only one who can't see the top 200 in the pre-orders?

Also Gt5 really needs to pick up. Reach is a monster almost one million. Hopefully TDU2 does well.

pre-order chart was cut to a lower limit

it is now part of vgc pro which will be launched in SEPTEMBER,it is a paid service.you can also acces it now but you will have to go through ioi and pay him

I am intrigued to know if there will be a worldwide pre-order chart to show full progress of each game?

Pfahaha the only bad word of mouth gta4 got was from new outlets(fox news) talking about murder simulators.That won't stop gta fans from buying the game.On the other hand.. no ps3 game has sold 10 million, you keep relying on past sales when most of the ps2 generation contained the majority of the xbox fanbase. Grand Turismo 3 sold 15 mill with a userbase of 130 million plus ...It's no longer Sonyland Solild_Snake.

So let me see. People say GT brand is nothing in the US, didn't GT2 and GT3 sold most in the US?

Looking at Reach VS GT5 30 to 20 weeks before Launch ve have 79k versus 152k. No ads on either game so the Ads bullshit now to explain Reach pre orders now cannot be applied.

Reach is also the THIRD Halo game on the console and GT5 is the first True GT game on PS3.

GT5 has also been hyped since the revelation of PS3. GT5 is portrayed as the Holy fucking grail for PS3 when PS3 people are talking.

So basicly it should be GT5 gigant that can be compared to Halo 3, at least when you hear peoples arguments for PS3. In other threads people are using GT5 as an argument for huge increase in PS3 sales, overcoming 360 sales and so on.

And still people here thinks that the current pre orders seems OK? 

Seems that people have expected God him self and now when the pre orders gives indication they either try to come up with counter arguments like No Ads, Better i Europe, US hates GT and so on or that a Goat is as good as the expected God.

Where is the logic? This game should be the killer game, THE PS3 game, THE SUPER GAME. If it should be the numbers so not only be equal to Halo Reach but more then Halo 3 considering the current user base size.

Sorry folks but I am starting to doubt it.