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deathcape said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
akuseru said:
Nintari said:

This is what you get when you cater to people who aren't gamers. They made their money and success off people who don't care about the industry. The type of people who only buy what's "trendy" and "cool". Those people have very short attention spans and they're moving on.

The core gamers, the ones who made their company what it is today, the ones who have been on board since the NES/SNES days, they've mostly moved on so it's not like Nintendo can just switch it up and say "we're sorry". It's too late and so, they're going to have to lay in the bed they made.

 

Hopefully they learn their lesson next generation.

This, this and THIS!

I've been a Nintendo fan for ages. Actually, since I was 3 years old I have been playing Nintendo consoles ONLY, started out with the NES in '88. My first non-Nintendo console was the PS2, and that was mostly because of GTA 3. This generation, Nintendo gave me a big "fuck you", and started sucking off casual gamers for money. They forgot all about me and my many YEARS of loyal support through thick and thin. You fucked up Nintendo, and I hope this will hurt you bad. You don't forget the people who made you who you are, you cater to them and listen to them. Their new "fanbase" are just a bunch of casual wankers who doesn't have any idea of what you as a company really are. You are basically selling your console and games to people who don't really give a shit about you as a company or any of your classic gaming franchises, and that will move on to the next new fad in a couple of years.

I will give them second chance, and I will buy the next Nintendo console, but they will have to show some major improvement and fan service to win my respect back. I actually base LOADS of my purchases on loyalty, respect and principles. If I do not respect a company, I don't give a rats ass if their product is a life saver, I will never give them a cent. I know companies only want my money, but some of them actually makes me feel happy about giving them money for the product/service I get, because I respect them. Nintendo and most definitely the Wii is not in this group at the moment.

Nintendo hasn't changed a bit, you have.

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Since the topic of this thread was flawed at creation. I have a video that will settle this Nintendo Vs the World war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhaSe6LgQas

Like I said in this thread early. By this time next year if Nintendo is constantly in 3rd place. Then their dominance is over until then keep your hating to yourself.



 

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Cheebee said:
deathcape said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
akuseru said:
Nintari said:

This is what you get when you cater to people who aren't gamers. They made their money and success off people who don't care about the industry. The type of people who only buy what's "trendy" and "cool". Those people have very short attention spans and they're moving on.

The core gamers, the ones who made their company what it is today, the ones who have been on board since the NES/SNES days, they've mostly moved on so it's not like Nintendo can just switch it up and say "we're sorry". It's too late and so, they're going to have to lay in the bed they made.

 

Hopefully they learn their lesson next generation.

This, this and THIS!

I've been a Nintendo fan for ages. Actually, since I was 3 years old I have been playing Nintendo consoles ONLY, started out with the NES in '88. My first non-Nintendo console was the PS2, and that was mostly because of GTA 3. This generation, Nintendo gave me a big "fuck you", and started sucking off casual gamers for money. They forgot all about me and my many YEARS of loyal support through thick and thin. You fucked up Nintendo, and I hope this will hurt you bad. You don't forget the people who made you who you are, you cater to them and listen to them. Their new "fanbase" are just a bunch of casual wankers who doesn't have any idea of what you as a company really are. You are basically selling your console and games to people who don't really give a shit about you as a company or any of your classic gaming franchises, and that will move on to the next new fad in a couple of years.

I will give them second chance, and I will buy the next Nintendo console, but they will have to show some major improvement and fan service to win my respect back. I actually base LOADS of my purchases on loyalty, respect and principles. If I do not respect a company, I don't give a rats ass if their product is a life saver, I will never give them a cent. I know companies only want my money, but some of them actually makes me feel happy about giving them money for the product/service I get, because I respect them. Nintendo and most definitely the Wii is not in this group at the moment.

Nintendo hasn't changed a bit, you have.

this

This too.


This, this and THIS!

At first I thought you were being sarcastic, but I'm pretty sure you're serious. You sound very angry, which to me you sound like a whiny little child, and extremely selfish at that. "Nintendo should only make games that I like and nothing else." boohoo

Really Nintendo have gone back to what they were like in their older days. Like some have said it's you that has changed, not nintendo, so maybe you should be angry at yourself if you don't like the way things are.

I haven't been a happier gamer since the SNES, and a lot of people I have heard feel the same. Some, like you, don't, and that's too bad because you're the ones missing out.

 



mortono said:
Antabus said:
mortono said:

Sony took a loss on the PS3 so they could shove Blu-Ray down everybody's throats, force everyone to repurchase all their movies, and push everybody to buy expensive HD television sets that they didn't need. Now they are trying to do the same with their 3D televisions.

Did sony piss on your cereal or something?


Believe it or not I use to like Sony. I was a huge fan of the original Playstation. But when I saw this my entire confidence in them was shattered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4

It should be no secret by now to anyone that pays a bit of attention to my posts, but I plain don't like Sony, at least not in terms of GAMES. I actually think they make some great products like TVs and laptops, but I was never really a fan of their games, and as of late, their attitude has just sucked. Everything from the rootkit scandal to the $599 to the axing of Liksang, it seems they are just the bully of the industry. I also don't really appreciate how their film divison, along with 4 or 5 others, control like 95% of the film industry.



Stefan.De.Machtige said:
akuseru said:
Nintari said:

This is what you get when you cater to people who aren't gamers. They made their money and success off people who don't care about the industry. The type of people who only buy what's "trendy" and "cool". Those people have very short attention spans and they're moving on.

The core gamers, the ones who made their company what it is today, the ones who have been on board since the NES/SNES days, they've mostly moved on so it's not like Nintendo can just switch it up and say "we're sorry". It's too late and so, they're going to have to lay in the bed they made.

 

Hopefully they learn their lesson next generation.

This, this and THIS!

I've been a Nintendo fan for ages. Actually, since I was 3 years old I have been playing Nintendo consoles ONLY, started out with the NES in '88. My first non-Nintendo console was the PS2, and that was mostly because of GTA 3. This generation, Nintendo gave me a big "fuck you", and started sucking off casual gamers for money. They forgot all about me and my many YEARS of loyal support through thick and thin. You fucked up Nintendo, and I hope this will hurt you bad. You don't forget the people who made you who you are, you cater to them and listen to them. Their new "fanbase" are just a bunch of casual wankers who doesn't have any idea of what you as a company really are. You are basically selling your console and games to people who don't really give a shit about you as a company or any of your classic gaming franchises, and that will move on to the next new fad in a couple of years.

I will give them second chance, and I will buy the next Nintendo console, but they will have to show some major improvement and fan service to win my respect back. I actually base LOADS of my purchases on loyalty, respect and principles. If I do not respect a company, I don't give a rats ass if their product is a life saver, I will never give them a cent. I know companies only want my money, but some of them actually makes me feel happy about giving them money for the product/service I get, because I respect them. Nintendo and most definitely the Wii is not in this group at the moment.

Nintendo hasn't changed a bit, you have.

I'm glad when I hear these so-called core Nintendo fans having a fit because Nintendo has "abandoned" them. Oh boo-hoo!

What really happened is that they abandoned Nintendo. The N64 and Gamecube sold a dismal amount of units. Nintendo was on the verge of exiting the hardware market in 2004, and if it wasn't for the Wii and DS, that's probably what would have happened.

The Wii is really a return to NES values. The NES was considered a mass market system. It wasn't targeting gamers, it was targeting families just like the Wii is doing. The NES had the Power Pad (now called Wii Fit), the NES Sports games (now called Wii Sports), and Super Mario Bros (now called New Super Mario Bros). This is why the Wii has been successful. It is getting back to the audience that has been "abandoned" since the NES. Can you, poor core gamer, even imagine what it's like to be abandoned for 20 years?

And to core gamers who think the audience on Wii consists of morons that bought the system as an impulse buy just to be "trendy", that is a complete stereotype and you couldn't be more wrong. If anything, that is a better description of the core audience that lines up at midnight launches and buys games before they even come out.

The audience that bought the Wii did so because they saw legitimate quality in the console. It became "trendy" because the mass market actually saw value in video games that didn't exist before. The Wii, with it's focus on local multiplayer and easy/fun/short gameplay, is still sitting in many people's living rooms and is still being used frequently (check the Nielsen report).

The fever that caused the Wii to be sold out for 2 years may be gone, but that doesn't mean the Wii is headed for an early grave. Nintendo will not be regretting their abandonment of those poor core gamers anytime in the near future. And, in fact, it's not like they've completely abandoned that audience. They are still making great games for the core audience, but like I said, it's the core audience who has abandoned Nintendo

 



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mortono said:

[...]

I'm glad when I hear these so-called core Nintendo fans having a fit because Nintendo has "abandoned" them. Oh boo-hoo!

What really happened is that they abandoned Nintendo. The N64 and Gamecube sold a dismal amount of units. Nintendo was on the verge of exiting the hardware market in 2004, and if it wasn't for the Wii and DS, that's probably what would have happened.

The Wii is really a return to NES values. The NES was considered a mass market system. It wasn't targeting gamers, it was targeting families just like the Wii is doing. The NES had the Power Pad (now called Wii Fit), the NES Sports games (now called Wii Sports), and Super Mario Bros (now called New Super Mario Bros). This is why the Wii has been successful. It is getting back to the audience that has been "abandoned" since the NES. Can you, poor core gamer, even imagine what it's like to be abandoned for 20 years?

And to core gamers who think the audience on Wii consists of morons that bought the system as an impulse buy just to be "trendy", that is a complete stereotype and you couldn't be more wrong. If anything, that is a better description of the core audience that lines up at midnight launches and buys games before they even come out.

The audience that bought the Wii did so because they saw legitimate quality in the console. It became "trendy" because the mass market actually saw value in video games that didn't exist before. The Wii, with it's focus on local multiplayer and easy/fun/short gameplay, is still sitting in many people's living rooms and is still being used frequently (check the Nielsen report).

The fever that caused the Wii to be sold out for 2 years may be gone, but that doesn't mean the Wii is headed for an early grave. Nintendo will not be regretting their abandonment of those poor core gamers anytime in the near future. And, in fact, it's not like they've completely abandoned that audience. They are still making great games for the core audience, but like I said, it's the core audience who has abandoned Nintendo

 

If Nintendo is fine with all this, it should keep on following its way. Who doesn't like it can buy from someone else. Nintendo is happy, someone else is happy, former Nintendo users are less happy, but who cares?



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" former Nintendo users are less happy"

NO

just NO

not every former ninty user,

I am 28 and still enjoy mario kart, mario party etc. and couldn't care less about HALO, COD.

My girlfriend doesn't like FPS, too.

but who cares?



ninty_shareholder64 said:

" former Nintendo users are less happy"

NO

just NO

not every former ninty user,

I am 28 and still enjoy mario kart, mario party etc. and couldn't care less about HALO, COD.

My girlfriend doesn't like FPS, too.

but who cares?

 

I meant "former" as "ex", not "older", you are still a Nintendo user. BTW, core games sales on Wii give the measure of core Nintendo gamers still happy, and obviously Ninty is still caring about them, at least.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


you meant: former Nintendo users are less happy, because they do not play ninty games anymore?

that would make sense, but they could be happy again! How?

Buy a wii!



ninty_shareholder64 said:

you meant: former Nintendo users are less happy, because they do not play ninty games anymore?

that would make sense, but they could be happy again! How?

Buy a wii!


No, he meant the people who liked nintendo before but don't like them any more. They propably own a wii already.