I disagree it's too hard to be worth it, but it's not easy. Often the assets have to be remade from scratch, or extensively redone to fit on the system.

No, its been a fun ride but i think im done with nintendo "Consoles" been playing them since the snes all the way til now but the steam just doesn't have the punk in them anymore ... Unless the following factors happens next gen... whenever that is.

Positive Factors:

If its graphics are above and beyond PS3/360 and modern PC's.

If they Continue to innovate and at the same time WITH graphical and HD muscle behind them.

If they create a online system on par with Steam/PSN or XBL.

If they use all the money they made off of the DS and wii to be smart and bring back IP's that need a reboot, that includes 3rd parties.

If they become balanced when it comes to games, for example Xbox 360 is for the overall amount of good games, while PS3 has the best versatillity and Wii has the family exp. Basiclly the next nintendo console... or all consoles next gen in general should become more PC like but better.

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Negative factors:

- If Half or All of the Above does not happen.

Bottom line, i hope Nintendo doesn't hold a monopoly in 3rd party games for consoles next gen, would rather have a fairway tie between all 3 or close to it.

Which doesn't explain why there are PSP ports but not Wii ports for some games even though the PSP is arguably much weaker than the Wii. Theres obviously some other angle involved which isn't explained by development costs or effort, although my pet theory is the marketing angle in terms of percieved audience and how they are allowed to market certain titles.

What makes you think what I wrote contradicts why the PSP games were made?

And the angle is about willingness, not tech. Duh.

It wasn't particularly clear which way you were inferring.

Okay. So just in case, even down porting takes a fair amount of work, but the fact that the PSP gets games show developers can do it, but they are using the specs as a bullshit excuse.

Given the fact that the Wii got a modern FPS called Modern Warfare I think that excuse has been thrown out the window for 80% of cases. But I must re-itterate, it really is just a few interns worth of work to do the majority of the porting from the current 'standard' down to Wii level. Its cheaper to port to the Wii from the 360 or PS3 than it is to port to the other HD console.

Probably the reality of the situation is that game developers tend to develop games for themselves first and foremost and not as a service to the wider market. The majority of the game development industry is 20-30, and male so of course they are going to give their attention to the game systems which are designed to fit their demographics. Most of the older and wiser game developers are now in another industry. This isn't about performance, or the controller. Interplays slogan was by gamers for gamers, and the industry as a whole are the type of gamers who play games on the HD consoles.

Well MWR had the benefit of the engine also being on the Wii. But other engines are being ported as well. And I agree it costs less to put on the Wii, just that it doesn't cost little. Also, I'm not sure about interns, as there are very few such games downported to the Wii in the first place. Dead Rising was done by an established developer (TOSE, even if some don't like their methods), and MWR was done by Treyarch, which is a full developer as well (they even got Gamecube work when they did the console CoD games).

2. I find I agree with that as well. But it's not a popular thing to notice, since many gamers feel that those games are for them, and should all be for them.

3. I so agree, especially with most of the big games having control setups that have counterparts working on the Wii.

I think it is simpler than that ...

Most third party publishers discounted the Wii before it was even announced, and any support they gave to the Wii was from their worst teams with very limited budgets. In many cases these developers would be far more likely to develop a Sponge-Bob Square Pants or Dora the Explorer game than any game most gamers would recognize. These developers did the best they could with limited resources and choose to develop simple fun games that took advantage of the Wiimote.

The Wii and many of these games shattered expectations of most third party publishers, but by the time they were willing to admit that the Wii was successful the vast majority of their best teams and their best known IPs had been tied to massive projects on the HD consoles; and any project that would be considered a core-game from most studios was an unknown IP being developed by studios that had a history of producing critically acclaimed niche titles.

Realistically, the next generation is going to start out quite a bit differently and it is highly unlikely that any studio with a large IP (like Modern Warfare) will be allowed to ignore the Wii’s successor unless it flops in the market. For the most part, more optimistic expectations from launch will lead to stronger support across the board which should lead to better sales across the board, and a feedback loop could form where third party support is justified because of the system’s strong third party support.

where u been in the past year? because games like god of war 3, killzone 3, gran turismo 5, will complete say otherwise.

also it depends also its software its optimize for it, of course windows will run better on x86-64 processor than cell emulating it.

still OS with cell/powerpc support like linux outperform  x86 processor with easy. and the same thing it can be said about games.

running a core 2 duo p8600 ati 3470 (680mhz 40stream units very similar to xbox360gpu)on my notebook it doesn't perform as well as my ps3 on games like RE5, FIFA, SF4 that are also o pc

consoles OS are not as heavy as windows, code in games its optimize it perform better than best x86_64 cpus.