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I can think of about $3000 reasons.



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Ssenkahdavic said:

I was trying to be discrete.  I really was, but fuck if this page wants me to do things discretely.

HERE are the official white docs for 3D via HDMI 1.4a (with all supporting resolutions and how they are displayed.  Top/Bottom, Framepacking, sidebyside, etc etc etc)

Yep...I downloaded that doc months ago. And was sure TVs will do 1080p gaming...

Yet here we are...lol



Lol lol lol I just read the opening post properly. I should have read it properly before I was posting. 

You even mentioned the 50 inch Samsung Plasma and the 27 inch Asus. 

 

I wasnt aware that the new 3D tvs doesnt support 1080p 3D gaming. 

 

So we now have 3D ready TVs. But after reading the opening post I will wait for Full 3D TVs. So thats why you wrote we should avoid buying the 3D Tvs. I really could have saved a lot of time its a bad habit not reading the OP properly. 

 



The lasers are way too big, i'm looking for 50-55" max, discontinued, unreliable and fan noisy from what I read. The panasonic vt20 sounds good to me, very high ratings on 2d picture, but plasmas aren't as bright as lcds, and 3d needs bright, the shutters dim the picture. I'll wait to see the vizios and how their 2d performance stacks up, as well as 3d ghosting, which is a problem with lcds. Five years from now i'll have a new console (ps4?), and will probably upgrade to a OLED screen like everyone else will be doing when they become cheaper than lcd. 

I had the elsa wireless, and a pair of wired shutters before that. First person games in 3d were awesome. I played Half-life 1 in 3d, a blast, it made my 17" crt seem like 25". 

I've looked at the Hdmi 1.4 spec here: 

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/specificationdownload.aspx?t=e1bcfddf-de4b-4bcc-ba78-96f50c86f565&f=3

, and correct me if i'm wrong, but on page 11 I see 1920x1080p @60hz, as well as 1080i. So i'm not sure what all the fuss is about with people saying hdmi 1.4 doesn't support 1080p at 60hz, it does!!

Sony originally stated that StardustHd would run in 1080 and 3d, but since has changed their tune on that, but it's not because of a limitation of the hdmi1.4.



Here's the real reason for not buying a 3D TV: the 3DS is coming out.



The Official 'The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword' Thread (Updated):
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=134508&page=1
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Slimebeast said:

Dam, I really wanted the 46 inch Samsung 3DTV!

But maybe it's mature when new models come out next year?

As for the 24 fps Blue ray input at 1080p I think that sounds awkward since 24fps is not enuff to provide a satysfying 3D-picture. I fought Bluray in 3D was 48 fps.


this is pretty much it all films are 24fps due restriction not because they can't do more.

its about keep the film predigital movies had that ran at 24fps.



raygun said:

I've looked at the Hdmi 1.4 spec here: 

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/specificationdownload.aspx?t=e1bcfddf-de4b-4bcc-ba78-96f50c86f565&f=3

, and correct me if i'm wrong, but on page 11 I see 1920x1080p @60hz, as well as 1080i. So i'm not sure what all the fuss is about with people saying hdmi 1.4 doesn't support 1080p at 60hz, it does!!

Sony originally stated that StardustHd would run in 1080 and 3d, but since has changed their tune on that, but it's not because of a limitation of the hdmi1.4.

Ssenkahdavic and I determined that HDMI 1.3/1.4 ave enough bandwith to do 1080p @60 in 3D so yeah, its not the limitation of HDMI 1.4.

And you are right, 1080p is listed in the spec document as one of the "Secondary 3D Video Format Timings"...meaning it is optional.

Because of this none of the TVs out so far support have taken the liberty of supporting 1080p@60 for gaming. They don't have to as the HDMI standard doesn't force them to (see "Table 8-15 3D transmission video formats" which lists what they have to support)

They may in the near future though...hence why I am saying one should wait...



raygun said:

The lasers are way too big, i'm looking for 50-55" max, discontinued, unreliable and fan noisy from what I read. The panasonic vt20 sounds good to me, very high ratings on 2d picture, but plasmas aren't as bright as lcds, and 3d needs bright, the shutters dim the picture. I'll wait to see the vizios and how their 2d performance stacks up, as well as 3d ghosting, which is a problem with lcds. Five years from now i'll have a new console (ps4?), and will probably upgrade to a OLED screen like everyone else will be doing when they become cheaper than lcd. 

I had the elsa wireless, and a pair of wired shutters before that. First person games in 3d were awesome. I played Half-life 1 in 3d, a blast, it made my 17" crt seem like 25". 

I've looked at the Hdmi 1.4 spec here: 

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/specificationdownload.aspx?t=e1bcfddf-de4b-4bcc-ba78-96f50c86f565&f=3

, and correct me if i'm wrong, but on page 11 I see 1920x1080p @60hz, as well as 1080i. So i'm not sure what all the fuss is about with people saying hdmi 1.4 doesn't support 1080p at 60hz, it does!!

Sony originally stated that StardustHd would run in 1080 and 3d, but since has changed their tune on that, but it's not because of a limitation of the hdmi1.4.

It is not the hardware (atleast it is not HDMI 1.4).

The companies had to put the restriction in for a reason.

When companies do anything in the corporate world, money should always be #1 on your list of why's (as Diso pointed out to me :) tho I still like to believe there are other reasons.

Do you really think the PS3 is capable of running ALL games at 1920x1080 @60 x 2?  Not even close.  We do not even get all 2D games in 1080p (actually we do not get many of them).  This limitation is GOOD for CONSOLE gamers.  At one point they were talking about 1080p games @30 x 2 (talk about a headache).  It also means that multiplat games will be reasonably easy to port back and forth, due to all of their "accepted" 3D resolutions do not exceed HDMI 1.2 bandwidth either.

 

@ Diso...you beat me to it!



Dont need reasons not to buy it there are plenty of those. However, they do need to find any good reason why somone would upgrade thier TV's again already. The one I have I got a year ago. The one I had before it that finally died I had for over 15years.



Games4Fun said:

Dont need reasons not to buy it there are plenty of those. However, they do need to find any good reason why somone would upgrade thier TV's again already. The one I have I got a year ago. The one I had before it that finally died I had for over 15years.

Because the new TVs have 3D..?

Not saying that getting a new TV right now for 3D is smart, but not everyone needs 15 years to pass between buying new TVs, especially not with all the new features we're seeing in TVs these days (3D, apps, etc.)