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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Microsoft Earnings Announcement - July 22nd 2010

Slimebeast said:

So Xbox still made about $1 billion in profits during the Fiscal year if not more (despite the EDD division profit being what, $700 mill?), correct?

Anyone know how much Microsfts total console bussiness is on the red since the start, and a rough estimate how much they've lost on the X360?

Stay there, I'll get my figures!!



 

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DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:

VGZ around 40.7 million sold for 360 till June. Diffrence of just 1 million between shipped and sold.



do you think they ship big numbers just before the redesign of the console? 1 million in stores right before a new version is released seems to be very accurate IMO


Slim NA launch was in June.....



So they lost in Entertainment division ?? Wow such a shame 360 is doing great like MS Exclusives and 3rd Parties and XBL and XBLA... But looks like Kin is killing all the good work 360 is doing... shame on kin i hate it... :b



Very nice YoY growth in Windows revenue and profits. Apple hasn't caught Microsoft's revenues yet!



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According to the report, the EDD reported $679 million operating income compared to $108 million from the same quarter in 2009. That's a good improvement.



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shanbcn said:
DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:

VGZ around 40.7 million sold for 360 till June. Diffrence of just 1 million between shipped and sold.



do you think they ship big numbers just before the redesign of the console? 1 million in stores right before a new version is released seems to be very accurate IMO


Slim NA launch was in June.....



Okay, Xbox 360 is heavily overtracked. We should adjust it with - 1 million units. Is that what you wanna here?



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Entertainment and Devices Division
 
Three months ended June 30, Twelve Months Ended June 30,
(In millions, except percentages) 2010 2009 Percentage
Change
2010 2009 Percentage
Change
Revenue $1,600 $1,257 27% $8,058 $8,035 0%
Operating income (loss) $(172) $(141) (22)% $679 $108 529%
 
 
Entertainment and Devices Division (“EDD”) offerings include the Xbox 360 platform (which includes the Xbox 360 gaming and entertainment console, Xbox 360 video games, Xbox LIVE, and Xbox 360 accessories), the Zune digital music and entertainment platform (“Zune”), PC software games, online games and services, Mediaroom (our Internet protocol television software), the Microsoft Surface computing platform, Windows Mobile and Embedded device platforms, application software for Apple’s Macintosh computers, Microsoft PC hardware products, and other devices. EDD is also responsible for all retail sales and marketing for Microsoft Office and Windows operating systems.
 
 
Three months ended June 30, 2010 compared with three months ended June 30, 2009
 
 
EDD revenue increased reflecting an increase in Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue and increased revenue from the non-gaming portion of the business. Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue increased $228 million or 30%, primarily reflecting increased Xbox 360 consoles sold and increased Xbox LIVE revenue, partially offset by decreased revenue per console. We shipped 1.5 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2010, compared with 1.2 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2009. Non-gaming revenue increased $115 million or 23%, primarily reflecting increased sales of Windows Embedded device platforms.
 
 
EDD revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2010 included a favorable foreign currency exchange impact of $52 million.
 
 
EDD operating loss increased primarily reflecting increased operating expenses, offset in part by increased revenue. Cost of revenue increased $251 million or 38% primarily from charges resulting from the discontinuation of the KIN phone and increased royalty costs resulting from increased Xbox LIVE digital marketplace third-party content sales. Sales and marketing expenses increased $73 million or 29% primarily due to increased Xbox 360 platform marketing activities. Research and development expenses increased $48 million or 10%, primarily reflecting increased third-party development and programming costs and increased headcount-related expenses.
 
 
Twelve months ended June 30, 2010 compared with twelve months ended June 30, 2009
 
 
EDD revenue was nearly flat reflecting increased revenue from the non-gaming portion of the business, partially offset by decreased revenue from Xbox 360 platform and PC games. Non-gaming revenue increased $35 million or 1% primarily reflecting increased sales of Windows Embedded device platforms, offset in part by decreased Zune and Windows Mobile revenue. Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue decreased $12 million, primarily reflecting a reduction in Xbox 360 consoles sold and revenue per console, offset in part by increased Xbox LIVE revenue. We shipped 10.3 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fiscal year 2010, compared with 11.2 million Xbox 360 consoles during fiscal year 2009.
 
 
EDD operating income increased due to reduced operating expenses. Cost of revenue decreased $528 million or 11%, primarily due to lower Xbox 360 console costs, offset in part by increased royalty costs resulting from increased Xbox LIVE digital marketplace third-party content sales and charges resulting from the discontinuation of the KIN phone. Research and development expenses decreased $34 million or 2%, primarily reflecting decreased third-party development and programming costs.

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/fy10/earn_rel_q4_10.mspx



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

shanbcn said:
DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:

VGZ around 40.7 million sold for 360 till June. Diffrence of just 1 million between shipped and sold.



do you think they ship big numbers just before the redesign of the console? 1 million in stores right before a new version is released seems to be very accurate IMO


Slim NA launch was in June.....

earnings are til the end of june, slim was only out for a  couple of weeks.

"Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue increased $228 million or 30%, primarily reflecting increased Xbox 360 consoles sold and increased Xbox LIVE revenue, partially offset by decreased revenue per console"

Going by that statement they didnt ship that all that many before the end of june.



DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:
DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:

VGZ around 40.7 million sold for 360 till June. Diffrence of just 1 million between shipped and sold.



do you think they ship big numbers just before the redesign of the console? 1 million in stores right before a new version is released seems to be very accurate IMO


Slim NA launch was in June.....



Okay, Xbox 360 is heavily overtracked. We should adjust it with - 1 million units. Is that what you wanna here?


Did i say that? I just want consistency, seriously at this point PS3 also should have diffrence of 1 million or less.



  • Xbox 360 console units up 26% and growing faster than the overall market
  • Xbox Live Membership surpassed 25 million
  • Annual Xbox Live Marketplace revenue exceeded subscription revenue
  • Non-gaming revenue up 23%

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