=) this discussion between most of the Community vs. Selnor is getting interesting ^^

problem is that... even microsoft price is 60$, its a not a 60$ game, not matter how u factor it.

move bundle is 100$ and that doesnt make it 60$ camera controller because it have a 40$ or less game.

So you have over 9000 points online in Mario Kart Wii and everything gathered in NSMBWii? SMG wasn't very hard until the last galaxy but SMG2 is no cake walk by any means if you want all 240 stars. Sin and Punishment 2 is also one of the hardest games this gen, on top of games like Fire Emblem which would plain slaughter you even not on harder modes if you don't take your time. 100% that Punch Out Wii? harder than any HD console games I've played this entire gen buddy.

That's what I mean about your lack of knowledge about the Wii this gen. =P

PS: MK64 was easy, I slaughtered all my friends, so I don't know what you are talking about, Wii version is not any easier, just different mechanics.

PS2: Lets not also forget about Monster Hunter Tri, lol.

Maybe there are 48 points on your body that is CAN track, but it can only track 20 of those 48 at a time during any given game.

So let's say the Kinect can actually track the joints in your fingers and they make a game that requires hand movements, like something where you reach towards the screen and grab something, from what I see that game will be able to register that but won't be able to register anything else outside of your hands since each has 10 joints if you track all 5 fingers, although that still leaves you to figure out how to then track your arm moving back and forth.

Maybe if they make a game like that you could only be able to track one of your hands and not both, we will have to see how this works out.

The whole (2) active people thing at a time and MS considering it the ultimate family gaming perripheral brings me to another point, but I don't know if that fits in this thread.

I'm thinking that it's 20 per person making it 40, then 8 for tracking the background for distancing purposes with the software tracking the shell of the human bodies. as devs get more clever, maybe they can do hardware and software tracking in a smarter way or stress the IR camera and 360 to change points very fast in real time to track more people that way, we'll see.

In 3D modeling/rigging, a joint is a point of rotation upon a single axis. Additional location points are represented by the vertices at the two ends of each folding or rotating joint, which itself has translation data upon the X,Y and Z axis.

So tracking one joint in 3D space is essentially tracking 3 vertices or points in X,Y,Z space.

It's easier to use your head to crack a rock than argue against Selnor and win.

Funny thread. My favourite part was when Microsoft's, erm... creatively optimistic marketing was entered as evidence against a spec sheet.