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Carl on 21 July 2010
BMaker11 said:
Seece said:
Euphoria14 said:
Seece said:
theprof00 said:

already posted. locking.

 

 

Also, it's all lies

You aint locking anything

Also none of it's lies. It's all very econimical with the truth though


Really? Wii Balance Board is required to enjoy Wii motion gaming?

Really? Navigation controller are required to enjoy PS3 motion gaming when the DS3 can be substituted as well as SONY flat out telling us that MOVE titles can be played with just the MOVE wand?

 

These charts aren't truth what so ever. They are just as much bullshit as the ones SONY showed us for years and after seeing so many 360 supporters attacking SONY for theirs I am dumbfounded as to why so many now defend these equally, if not more bullshit charts coming from MS right now.

Come on Seece, they are adding in bullshit to make their's seem the least expensive when for 2x player MOVE gaming you only need to spend $150 as a current owner (same as 360) and $70 as a Wii owner.

Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?

Ugh, again, none of it is lies. They're misleading yes, very misleading .. but they're tallying up how much it would cost to play a fitness game on Wii.

I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just saying. It's not lies, it's just incredibly misleading.

"Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?"

Wow another clever cloggs that doesn't GET marketing, why the fuck would Microsoft shit on their own chart?? Do you REALLY need this question answered ... please don't say "it's rhetorical ra ra ra"

I wish some people would use their heads when it comes to stuff like this ...

 

So you think it was ok when Sony said the 360 costs $500 then? Because you sure are supporting the same logic here...at least from a marketing standpoint

Edit: Look what I found lol

Seece:

 

You don't expect this UTTER crap from a company. Just when I started to soften towards Sony they pull this BS.

- Wifi, if you actually even WANT this you can get it for as cheap as $70 brand new on ebay.
- HD, $30 for a 20GIG, $80 for a 120GIG BRAND NEW. Not only that but if you bought an Arcade don't Microsoft give you FREE memory cards and a "20gig HD for $5 or something?
Online - $25 - $30 if you shop around and trust me its not hard. 
HDMI, well it IS in all models now so why even add that, not to mention at least Microsoft pack a free HDMI cable with the elite! 

REAL COST

$325 - $380

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/2759/sony-spin-in-overdrive-ps3-cheaper-than-360/

 

Before, this type of marketing was "utter crap" but now it's "very economical with the truth". Whatever floats your boat, man

GREAT find



                            

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Rpruett on 21 July 2010
Carl2291 said:
BMaker11 said:
Seece said:
Euphoria14 said:
Seece said:
theprof00 said:

already posted. locking.

 

 

Also, it's all lies

You aint locking anything

Also none of it's lies. It's all very econimical with the truth though


Really? Wii Balance Board is required to enjoy Wii motion gaming?

Really? Navigation controller are required to enjoy PS3 motion gaming when the DS3 can be substituted as well as SONY flat out telling us that MOVE titles can be played with just the MOVE wand?

 

These charts aren't truth what so ever. They are just as much bullshit as the ones SONY showed us for years and after seeing so many 360 supporters attacking SONY for theirs I am dumbfounded as to why so many now defend these equally, if not more bullshit charts coming from MS right now.

Come on Seece, they are adding in bullshit to make their's seem the least expensive when for 2x player MOVE gaming you only need to spend $150 as a current owner (same as 360) and $70 as a Wii owner.

Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?

Ugh, again, none of it is lies. They're misleading yes, very misleading .. but they're tallying up how much it would cost to play a fitness game on Wii.

I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just saying. It's not lies, it's just incredibly misleading.

"Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?"

Wow another clever cloggs that doesn't GET marketing, why the fuck would Microsoft shit on their own chart?? Do you REALLY need this question answered ... please don't say "it's rhetorical ra ra ra"

I wish some people would use their heads when it comes to stuff like this ...

 

So you think it was ok when Sony said the 360 costs $500 then? Because you sure are supporting the same logic here...at least from a marketing standpoint

Edit: Look what I found lol

Seece:

 

You don't expect this UTTER crap from a company. Just when I started to soften towards Sony they pull this BS.

- Wifi, if you actually even WANT this you can get it for as cheap as $70 brand new on ebay.
- HD, $30 for a 20GIG, $80 for a 120GIG BRAND NEW. Not only that but if you bought an Arcade don't Microsoft give you FREE memory cards and a "20gig HD for $5 or something?
Online - $25 - $30 if you shop around and trust me its not hard. 
HDMI, well it IS in all models now so why even add that, not to mention at least Microsoft pack a free HDMI cable with the elite! 

REAL COST

$325 - $380

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/2759/sony-spin-in-overdrive-ps3-cheaper-than-360/

 

Before, this type of marketing was "utter crap" but now it's "very economical with the truth". Whatever floats your boat, man

GREAT find

ROFL.



BBH on 21 July 2010

Lol.



sad.man.loves.vgc on 21 July 2010

no one is better than anyone, I love when stuff like this happens and superiority complexes get exposed.



Seece on 21 July 2010
BMaker11 said:
Seece said:

Ugh, again, none of it is lies. They're misleading yes, very misleading .. but they're tallying up how much it would cost to play a fitness game on Wii.

I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just saying. It's not lies, it's just incredibly misleading.

"Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?"

Wow another clever cloggs that doesn't GET marketing, why the fuck would Microsoft shit on their own chart?? Do you REALLY need this question answered ... please don't say "it's rhetorical ra ra ra"

I wish some people would use their heads when it comes to stuff like this ...

 

So you think it was ok when Sony said the 360 costs $500 then? Because you sure are supporting the same logic here...at least from a marketing standpoint

Edit: Look what I found lol

Seece:

 

You don't expect this UTTER crap from a company. Just when I started to soften towards Sony they pull this BS.

- Wifi, if you actually even WANT this you can get it for as cheap as $70 brand new on ebay.
- HD, $30 for a 20GIG, $80 for a 120GIG BRAND NEW. Not only that but if you bought an Arcade don't Microsoft give you FREE memory cards and a "20gig HD for $5 or something?
Online - $25 - $30 if you shop around and trust me its not hard. 
HDMI, well it IS in all models now so why even add that, not to mention at least Microsoft pack a free HDMI cable with the elite! 

REAL COST

$325 - $380

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/2759/sony-spin-in-overdrive-ps3-cheaper-than-360/

 

Before, this type of marketing was "utter crap" but now it's "very economical with the truth". Whatever floats your boat, man


I never said I agreed with MS's marketing, I said it was econimical with the truth, which it is, and so was Sony's.

Sony and Microsoft are pathetic for doing this. I can't help it if I find Microsoft's version with Wii Fit more amusing, hey, at least they're showing immagination rather than Sony's boring chart

Edit - Also keep looking for a post where I say Sony' is lieing.

Everything I said in that Sony post, I still mean today.



 

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BBH on 21 July 2010

It's just amusing to see such differences in attitutes between two similar charts.



Moren on 21 July 2010

Adding the balance board in there is cheating.

It is a completly optional article that doesn't affect the "core games"

 

 

so kinect with no console: $300, with console  $150 (and 2 players max) (only one game)

wii no console 2 player: $260, 4 player $380, with console 2 players: $60, with console 4 player $ 180 (and wii comes with 2 games)

psmove with 2 player (with the pad (up to 2 players with pads)): $510, 4 players (no pad support): $550, with ps3 2 players: $210, ps3 4 players (again, no pad support): $250

 

So we all know which console has the best value.



Seece on 21 July 2010
BBH said:

It's just amusing to see such differences in attitutes between two similar charts.


What do you mean?

What I find interesting is that Microsoft havn't just made a basic chart, but they've done a very flashy version. Whether you or anyone else thinks there is room for a lawsuit (I have no idea either way tbh) I wonder if they're preparing to release this somehow to the wider public ..



 

BMaker11 on 21 July 2010
Seece said:
BMaker11 said:
Seece said:

Ugh, again, none of it is lies. They're misleading yes, very misleading .. but they're tallying up how much it would cost to play a fitness game on Wii.

I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just saying. It's not lies, it's just incredibly misleading.

"Also notice how they completely ignore that theirs is the only one incapable of supporting 3 or more players. Where is that on these bullshit charts?"

Wow another clever cloggs that doesn't GET marketing, why the fuck would Microsoft shit on their own chart?? Do you REALLY need this question answered ... please don't say "it's rhetorical ra ra ra"

I wish some people would use their heads when it comes to stuff like this ...

 

So you think it was ok when Sony said the 360 costs $500 then? Because you sure are supporting the same logic here...at least from a marketing standpoint

Edit: Look what I found lol

Seece:

 

You don't expect this UTTER crap from a company. Just when I started to soften towards Sony they pull this BS.

- Wifi, if you actually even WANT this you can get it for as cheap as $70 brand new on ebay.
- HD, $30 for a 20GIG, $80 for a 120GIG BRAND NEW. Not only that but if you bought an Arcade don't Microsoft give you FREE memory cards and a "20gig HD for $5 or something?
Online - $25 - $30 if you shop around and trust me its not hard. 
HDMI, well it IS in all models now so why even add that, not to mention at least Microsoft pack a free HDMI cable with the elite! 

REAL COST

$325 - $380

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/2759/sony-spin-in-overdrive-ps3-cheaper-than-360/

 

Before, this type of marketing was "utter crap" but now it's "very economical with the truth". Whatever floats your boat, man


I never said I agreed with MS's marketing, I said it was econimical with the truth, which it is, and so was Sony's.

Sony and Microsoft are pathetic for doing this. I can't help it if I find Microsoft's version with Wii Fit more amusing, hey, at least they're showing immagination rather than Sony's boring chart

Edit - Also keep looking for a post where I say Sony' is lieing.

Everything I said in that Sony post, I still mean today.

But before...it was utter crap, and you were "softening up to Sony" until they "pulled this BS"

Now M$ does the EXACT same thing, and it's "economical with the truth". What happened to it being utter crap and BS? All I'm asking.

I don't think anyone ever said you were lying. I mean, when Sony said Xbox wifi was $100, was that a lie? No. When M$ says a Move controller is $50, is that a lie? No. I just don't understand why you're having such a change of heart on the SAME marketing strategy. I can understand you don't agree with Microsoft's tactics, but you obviously find them reasonable, yet when Sony did it, it was bullshit. I find that hypocritical



BBH on 21 July 2010
Seece said:
BBH said:

It's just amusing to see such differences in attitutes between two similar charts.


What do you mean?

What I find interesting is that Microsoft havn't just made a basic chart, but they've done a very flashy version. Whether you or anyone else thinks there is room for a lawsuit (I have no idea either way tbh) I wonder if they're preparing to release this somehow to the wider public ..

Hmm, I dunno, Microsofts does indeed look a lot more geared to retail, but in my opinion there's a case for legal action being taken on them If so, and it would be a dirty move - maybe prompting the other two to play a bit more dirty.