"Every man to his taste."

The last refuge of a philistine.

We needn't even jump over to the HD consoles. Do you really think that Wii Sports Resort is a better game than Super Mario Galaxy? Really?

Let me check how much time I spent on these games on Nintendo Channel... just like I though, WSR got twice as much gameplay time than SMG (which I didn't finish... still), so yeah it's better. Got a problem with that?

Yeah. Your definition of quality (which appears to be based exclusively on playtime) makes no sense.

Don't worry - radishhead is here to back you guys up :)

Wii Sports Resort and SMG are fantastic games, and they both radiate ungodly amounts of quality in different ways. Look at a few videos of WSR and you can just feel the quality - from the bold colours and awesome art style to the the simplicity yet utterly addicting nature of all the games. It's something that only Nintendo could pull off ^^

Stop assuming I didn't define anything. I don't care about some elitists, who are fighting over what's quality in games or whatever they usually do. I spent more time with WSR, though SMG was bought two years prior to WSR and wasn't finished , so I like WSR more. This's easy enough to comprehend.

My favorite thing about people with bad taste: they accuse you of being elitist for having good taste.

 1) I'll basically get to this in point 3 (without mentioned this specific example, though)

 2) Do you think you have a "shit taste" as well? Honest question, no offense. I don't want to sound offensive or anything, I actually like arguing with you

3) Because business tries to identify what quality is. Business doesn't change the definition of quality, it tries to explain it. So business tries to define what quality is. That includes the artistic meaning of quality And we can trust this because business needs to find the real answer. Making answers up doesn't help a business man because he wants to sell his products. So he has to stay objective.

Quality is defined as "the degree to which a set of characteristics fullfills requirements". Or to put it this way: If a product does its job it is a quality product. If a work of art does its job (like inspiring you, tell you what the "producer" wanted to tell you, makes your thoughts go wild, teaches you something... whatever you want art to do) it is a quality work.

Of course people have different definitions of what quality is to them. Because of this some people like Metal Gear Solid and hate Wii Sports and vice versa. Some people also like both games because they know they need to approach them with different kinds of qualities in mind because these games fulfill different jobs.

It gets a lot easier to understand when you use the word "job". If you want Wii Sports to do the same job that Metal Gear does... well, of course you'll be dissappointed. It's like buying an electric car and then saying "this is utter crap, where is the fuel?" or watching a soap instead of an action movie and then going "where are the explosions?" But at the same time other people would look at a Ferrari and go "this is damaging the environment, this is utter crap!" Quality is always subjective and increased knowledge doesn't make your definition of quality more important than others.

In the case of Wii Sports you say the game is shallow because you try to apply the values that make Metal Gear, Zelda, Final Fantasy, etc. quality games to it. You can't do that. You don't judge a horror movie by comparing it to a soap, either!

And the reason why Wii Sports will be of longtime quality is pretty simple: A lot of people have played videogames for the first time when they used Wii Sports (Resort). And apparently they liked it, otherwise the games wouldn't sell so extremely well. And a lot of these new gamers are children today. In 20 years these children will be grown up and they'll be in the majority and say "quality games are like Wii Sports". 20 years ago kids were laughed at because they liked Super Mario Bros and today a lot of people hail it as the best game of all time and buy a Wii for their children because of Super Mario Bros being on the system.

And I bet that in 10 years the whole internet will be full of people who love Wii Sports and Mario Bros. Wii. And at some point someone will invent a new type of game with different qualities and these people will spend dozens of hours on the web wondering why these new "non-games" sell and tell everyone that they are crap and not worth playing haha :D :D :D

I didn't accused you in any way, but you're definitely trying to insult my taste. Should I report you? =)

Anyways its wrong to prejudge people you don't even know good enough. Though it may seem sound arrogant, but rest assured I have enough erudition to perfectly well appreciate games (a not only games) than a great majority of people around. For good or ill I spent enough time of my valuable life on this.

Well I won't comment on that but...

Have you ever talked to a 40 year old person who grew up on computer games about the quality of the games you like? They'll laugh at you and tell you that your game isn't quality at all.

And I bet you'll call them "elitists" and they'll say you've got a bad taste, haha

I actually know this situation because I think most movies are crap. This is because as a child I always watched movies to "learn" something new (hard to explain) but most movies just want to entertain you. So it often happens that I watch a good movie with my friends, we all enjoy it but afterwards we realize that we liked it because of completely different things and they think I'm crazy because they didn't even think of the aspects I mentioned and vice versa

Oh, don't say a word anymore =)

It's annoying to have a conversation on the Internet and constantly being accused of having a bad taste by some young boys, who so full of themselves and opinionated that they know better than me what's is good and what's not. Yeah, I'm just a redneck.