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Good read, but Sony and Microst are both trying to break out of their boxes too, Sony with the Move and MS with the Kinect.

With the Kinect at least MS should have some success since it's something different and not just the Wii , but I see the Move as another forgotten peripheral and will keep Sony in their box.  That said, I don't see the Kinect being the thing that makes MS take Nintendo's lead.



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As long as Nintendo controls the family and child game market, of course they will be ahead.

Call that trolling, or whatever, that's the bare truth.

Nintendo are currently an astounding success because they appeal to those two big markets, and the others, although trying, don't.



I really hope that Nintendo never stops being "Nintendo" and that Microsoft and Sony continue to be "not Nintendo."  I think I'd die if I see a GC-esque or N64-esque scenario where Nintendo tries to be 'hardcore' and pander to the 13 to 25 year old demographic only to fall under the heel of Playstation and Xbox.  I love that the DS/Wii generation has allowed for a renaissance of sorts at Nintendo's philosophy of what gaming as a whole can be to different people.  At the very least, I hope that there's a New Super Mario Bros. (Insert Nintendo 6's name here) in the forseeable future.  I'd love to see that over "Alien Shooter #8123 now with Jetpacks, Time and Gravity manipulation, and EXTREME space marines."

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If the next generation home console from Nintendo is anything like the 3DS was to the DS, I suspect Nintendo has this one wrapped up for another generation at least. Since the generation is going to be longer and the next generation likely to be as long, that means its Nintendo all the way for the better part of this current decade at least. If Nintendo is unstoppable with no wide spectrum 3rd party support, then they will be rolstoppable if they get that as well.



As twesterm said, Sony and Microsoft are trying to break out of their box. Time will tell if they'll be successful, but I think the control schemes they've come up with are something we're going to see more of in the coming generations.

I don't think they'll be locked down like you're predicting. They're certainly not suddenly going to jump to Nintendo levels of popularity in the expanded audience out of the blue, but I think they will expand into it eventually, whether it starts with games or other offerings.

EDIT: I forgot my actual point. I think Nintendo will remain in the lead, but both Microsoft and Sony will see satisfactory success as well, probably more so than right now.



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The future of home consoles regarding sales is very unclear IMO. The reason for that is mainly because we have a much bigger casual audience because of the Wii (and DS, of course, but I'm talking about home consoles now). Previous consoles that have sold more than the competition did that because of exclusives (mainly), but that changed with the Wii. As long as Nintendo keeps the casuals mainly on their side by doing innovative things before the competition does and also by having the cheapest console from the beginning, they will keep the lead in the console war.

Sony and MS definitly try to get in the casual market, but they are actually improving on already done things (EyeToy and Wiimote). As I see it the places in this gen are alread set. Next gen everything could happen.



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BBH said:

As long as Nintendo controls the family and child game market, of course they will be ahead.

Call that trolling, or whatever, that's the bare truth.

Nintendo are currently an astounding success because they appeal to those two big markets, and the others, although trying, don't.

I don't think it's bad that Nintendo has control of those markets and I don't see how what you're saying is trolling.  I just hate the mentality that this market is everything that ails gaming and will change it to something the 13-25 year old demographic don't want it to be.  There will be the titles you want to see, just speak with your money.  The day the 13-25 year old demographic stop buying games will the day MS, Sony, and their third party partners shift accordingly.



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SmokedHostage said:
BBH said:

As long as Nintendo controls the family and child game market, of course they will be ahead.

Call that trolling, or whatever, that's the bare truth.

Nintendo are currently an astounding success because they appeal to those two big markets, and the others, although trying, don't.

I don't think it's bad that Nintendo has control of those markets and I don't see how what you're saying is trolling.  I just hate the mentality that this market is everything that ails gaming and will change it to something the 13-25 year old demographic don't want it to be.  There will be the titles you want to see, just speak with your money.  The day the 13-25 year old demographic stop buying games will the day MS, Sony, and their third party partners shift accordingly.

It's not, but every time I even mention children and Nintendo in the same sentence on this site I usually get called out for it.

You're right - it's no bad thing at all, Nintendo provide something different to different people and at the minute they are business gold dust.



BBH said:

It's not, but every time I even mention children and Nintendo in the same sentence on this site I usually get called out for it.

You're right - it's no bad thing at all, Nintendo provide something different to different people and at the minute they are business gold dust.


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Good read, imo Nintendo is a smart company i'm sure they won't ever make the mistakes they did with the cube era and something tells me that nintendos next console will be number 1 again.

btw have you noticed how nintendo does things? while microsoft and sony are busy with their motion control upcomming hardwares and games, nintendo is backfiring but with alot of killer ap games on the wii, and upcomming 3ds, Mario,  Zelda, Metroid, kid carus, pokemon black and white, ect...