The PS3 is $300, which is to much and the bundle is $130 for it all. $430 for it is just to steep for casual gamers, so easily NO!

Sony should lower PS3 price to $249.99 and sell the bundle (EVERYTHING) for $349.99 and than you might have something that competes with the Wii. No worries about MS, they are in the same sh*t storm Sony is with pricing. The Move bundle should be priced at $99 like it's now, with the one extra piece. That's it.

I think there are a few ways it could pan out. I don't see it attracting much of the casual non console owning audience as there is a cheaper, more well known option already available in the Wii. That said, it could prove to be the feature that finally makes some of the more casual PS2 owners finally upgrade to a PS3 (those who haven't already bought a Wii anyway), although perhaps not at its launch price. A year or two down the line (and a price cut later) then I definately see it attracting some of the PS2 owner crowd but I don't ever see it pulling in new non-console owning people as the Wii has (and continues to do).

Perhaps it will have a little better luck with non-PS3 owners who enjoy the more core games as (IMO) it is currently the best  motion control device for core game support (KZ3, Socom 4 ect). I think Natal will prevent many 360 owners from picking up Move and a PS3 but it could attract some of those who currently don't own either a 360 or PS3.

SCE can't compete with the Wii on the basis of price, regardless of any price trimming/slashing. That's one area in which they will never be able to compete with Nintendo due the gap in manufacturing costs alone.

So in that respect, if a quick pick up experience is what consumers want, it's tough to beat the current $199 Wii bundle.

The only "casual" buyers I see for the $399 bundle are those who are more interested in an all inclusive package to go with their HDTV for media playback, video store and Blu-Ray movies.

Beyond that, it's really going to have to be on the merit of the games being released whether these bundles sell to new consumers rather than the "Wii HD by Sony" concept.

As for existing PS3 owners, a lot of it will depend upon the strength of backwards support (most FPS games would be revitalized by point aiming rather than analog stick aiming) as well as (once again) the strength of the initial selection of games and future offerings.

Weak or lukewarm support (like the PSEye) will result in a lot of current owners passing on Move, or buying it early and not using it later when future games fail to deliver.

yes.

No, Move and Natal are far too expensive for 'casuals' who dont already own the consoles.

Doubt it, it would be like someone spending $20.00 on half a dozen nectarines rather than $10.00 on half a dozen Peaches, they are both nearly the same, the only difference is that nectarines are furless.  Heck someone sees wii bundle with Wii sports and sports resort for $199, by september Nintendo could annoncen ew bundles and maybe do a $20.00 or so price cut to Wii.

Highly unlikely, but I could and may be proven wrong come holidays '10.

Personally, I will look into a PS3 in another 3 to 5 years when Blu Ray is the standard format for home movies and DVDs have gone the way of cassette tapes.

Or to put it the more usual parlance: Will PS Move be a system seller?

Your question has 2 parts: Will it attract gamers who are into motion controls who don't have a PS3 (i.e. mostly gamers who own a Wii already)? And will it attract casuals, being further split into whoever still exists in the "casual" demographic who doesn't own a Wii who are never-the-less possible console buyers, and casuals who already own a Wii?

To the first segment of the potential system selling market I think the answer is not without some very compelling games that really can't be replicated on Wii. As there are already some compelling non-motion controlled games on PS3 it seems like it'll be a hard sell to convince core gamers who are into the Wii to get themselves a PS3 as well, and I don't think Move is the thing that will convince many. I think a small percentage will, eventually, with another PS3 price cut, whenever that happens. I still maintain that Sony haven't got a shit show of reaching 15 million shipped for FY10/11 without a price cut.

To the second segment of the system selling market, with the first group (non-Wii owners), it seems like it's gonna be a pretty small group by now. But whatever, Sony has a prety good chance of grabbing a fair share of the leftovers, after all a potential unique selling point to the casual gaming market for PS3 is not only Move, but also a good quality Blu-ray movie player (with 3D if you're into that sort of thing), so the steeper price can be justified on the basis that you're not just getting a motion control gaming system for your $400, it'll come down to marketing. With the casuals who are Wii owners, well if they're still very casual I don't see (m)any of them moving to PS3 (see what I did there?). If they've caught the gaming bug, a wee bit (see what I did there?) then perhaps a similar marketing approach to the non-Wii owning casuals could be effective at gaining Sony a modest number of these folks.

Overall though I don't see Move as a significant system seller. I think it may get people who would self identify as likely PS3 buyers in the future PS3 buyers to finally get a PS3, because now it does what the PS3 does, and it also does what the Wii does. But I'd call those people already reasonably committed to buying PS3 and so Move isn't really a system seller to those people.

More than likely all these little bits of various demographics will amount to significantly less than the VGC margin for error in estimating HW sales, meaning no clearly discernable effect on PS3 sales. Move will rely primarily on the existing user base, and already committed PS3 buyers for most of its sales; so Sony's gotta get on with preaching to the converted.

well, i'm may be taking a leap here as the price of kinect isn't set in stone but...

ps3 move bundle is $399 (which includes: ps3, move, and 1 game)

360 slim is $300 $150 kinect 1 game =  around $500, around $400 with an arcade

move is only more expensive if you try saying all move owners have to go home with 4 controllers, but that's not the entry price.  really, both kinect and move are priced pretty damn high.

the second point is obviously subjective but in the case of kinect there is only casual crap announced.  for move there is casual crap and core crap.  at the very least sony is casting a wider net.  menu navigation isn't going to do crap to sell to the 10 million 360 owners who are in the halo/CoD crowd.

I don't think so, people will see Move as a higher price wii. The ps3 bundle will cost twice as the wii does, and it won't have the same amuont of games that the wii will have for casual gamers.

I really don´t see how the Move will be implemented to harcore games...at leasts in the beggining, and a hardcore gamer that was intrested in a ps3 already has one.

So I think it will sell much much worse than the wii did, and in my opinion Move will sell less than the Kinect.