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jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Btw from that awesome fun list of win, what does these stand for

TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games? ?


It's more a list of PWN.  And you really need me to explain what "could've become any number of games?" means?  Are you ESL or something?


lol asking a question now is ESL? way to be a native speaker there sport

and yea PWN, wow what great Engirish you a speak a sir, keep it up ;) go bring another list of win please



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Move's lineup is certainly better than Kinect's lineup, but that isn't saying much. I hope people aren't implying that it is comparable to Wii's lineup or better, because that is just laughable.



M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
Zlejedi said:
richardhutnik said:
Metallicube said:

Question is, will there be enough of a consumer base, who are core gamers.. AND own a PS3, AND want motion controls, AND don't already own a Wii?

Nobody is going to buy a PS3 just for Move, so needs to focus its marketting on its existing user base, and I'm not sure there is a huge market for more core based motion controls. Besides, Nintendo is already bringing motion control to the core domain, and it's called Zelda: Skyward Sword.

I have been seeing the core bash motion control on here over and over.  I am curious, even if Move works real well, if the core market would end up buying it.

There's quite a big diffrence beetween motion controls coming in underpowered 480p capable console with extremly limited supply of titles worth buying, which is sold at astronomical prices and motion controls added for proper console with huge existing library of games and support for good amount of games worth playing.

lol.  That line's pretty rich given the announced Move lineup so far.  The herdcore may lament Wii's portfolio, but even it's announced pre-launch lineup absolutely slaughters what Sony's trying to peddle Move with...

Then you need to read up more on the line up of games cuz clearly you don't seem to know much of it

lol, so clueless. Let's actually compare the announced lineups then...

 

E3 2006 announced Wii lineup (minus Virtual Console)

 

  • Action title (Banpresto) became Crayon Shin-Chan
  • Action title (D3 Publisher) became Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
  • Action title (Eidos) became Tomb Raider Anniversary
  • Action title (From Software) became Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
  • Action title (Milestone) canceled
  • Action title (Namco Bandai) became Ennichi no Tatsujin
  • Action title (Tomy) planned Zoids game, canceled
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ)
  • Battle title (Tomy) became Naruto Shippuden! Clash of Ninja Revolution
  • Blitz: the League (Midway)
  • Bomberman (Hudson) became Bomberman Land Wii
  • Boxing title (AQ Interactive) became Victorious Boxers: Revolution
  • Bust-A-Move Bash! (Majesco)
  • Call of Duty 3 (Activision)
  • Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends (Taito)
  • Densha de Go! (Taito) became Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX: Sanyou Shinkansen Hen
  • Digimon (Namco Bandai) canceled
  • Disaster: Day of Crisis (Nintendo)
  • Dinsey/Pixar's Cars (THQ)
  • Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action (BVG)
  • Dinsey's Meet the Robinsons (BVG)
  • Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari)
  • Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix)
  • elebits (Konami)
  • Excite Truck (Nintendo)
  • Far Cry (Ubisoft) became Far Cry Vengeance
  • Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (Square Enix)
  • Final Furlong (Namco Bandai) became Family Jockey
  • Fire Emblem (Nintendo) became Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
  • Flight title (Hudson) became Wing Island
  • Happy Feet (Midway)
  • Harvest Moon (Marvelous) became Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility 
  • Heroes (Marvelous) became No More Heroes
  • Jawa (Spike) became Jawa: Mammoth to Himitsu no Ishi
  • Legend of the River King series (Marvelous) canceled 
  • Madden NFL 07 (EA)
  • Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
  • Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance (Activision)
  • Medal of Homor Airborne (EA) became Medal of Honor Vanguard
  • Metal Slug Anthology (SNK Playmore)
  • Metroid Prime III: Corruption (Nintendo)
  • Mobile Suit Gundam (Namco Bandai)became Mobile Suit Gundam MS Sensen 0079
  • Mortal Kombat Armageddon (Midway)
  • Mr D Goes to Town (Mastiff) became Domino Rally, released by UFO
  • Necro-Nesia (Spike) became Escape from Bug Island
  • Need for Speed Carbon (EA)
  • One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Namco Bandai)
  • Open Season (Ubisoft)
  • Pac-Man Carnival (Namco Bandai) became Namco Museum Remix
  • Project HAMMER (Nintendo) canceled
  • Puzzle title (Hudson) became Kororinpa: Marble Mania
  • Shooter title (Milestone) became Ultimate Shooting Collection
  • SIMPLE Series (D3 Publisher)
  • Sims (EA) became MySims
  • Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
  • Racing title (Genki) canceled
  • Racing title (MTO) became GT Pro Series
  • Racing title (Ubisoft) became Monster Racing 4x4
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
  • Red Steel (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
  • Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)
  • RPG title (Namco Bandai) became Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
  • Sadness (Nibris) canceled
  • San-X-All-Star Revolution (MTO) canceled
  • Samurai Warriors Wave (Koei) became Samurai Warriors Katana
  • SD Gundam Scad Hammers (Namco Bandai) became SD Gundam G-Breaker
  • Soccer title (Konami) became Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  • Sonic WildFire (Sega) became Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • SpongeBob SquarePants: the Creature from Krusty Krab (THQ)
  • Super Monkey Ball: Banan Blitz (Sega)
  • Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
  • Super Smash Bros. Wii (Nintendo) became Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  • Super Swing Golf (Tecmo)
  • Tamagotchi (Namco Bandai) became Tamagotchi Party On!
  • TBA title (Epoch) canceled
  • TBA title (Jaleco) became Ougon no Kizuna
  • TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games?
  • TBA title (The Game Factory) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (Vivendi Universal) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (WB Games) could've become any number of games? 
  • The Ant Bully (Midway)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (EA)
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft)
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision)
  • Turn it Around! (Taito) became Furufuru Park
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
  • Wario Ware Wii (Nintendo) became Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
  • Wii Music Orchestra (Nintendo) became Wii Music
  • Wii Play (Nintendo)
  • Wii Sports (Nintendo)

E3 2010 announced Move lineup 

 

  • Ape Escape (SCE)
  • Beat Sketcher (SCE) PSN title
  • Brunswick Pro Bowling (Crave)
  • Dead Space Extraction (EA) PSN title
  • Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Crave)
  • echocrome (SCE) PSN title
  • EyePet (SCE)
  • Heavy Rain (SCE)
  • Heroes on the Move (SCE)
  • High Velocity Bowling (SCE) PSN title
  • Hustle Kings (SCE) PSN title
  • John Daly's Pro Stroke Golf (OG)
  • Killzone 3 (SCE)
  • Kung Fu Live (Virtual Air Guitar) PSN title
  • LittleBig Planet 2 (SCE)
  • NBA 2K11 (2K)
  • Pain (SCE) PSN title
  • Racquet Sports (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 5 Gold (Capcom)
  • RUSE (Ubisoft)
  • SingStar Dance (SCE)
  • SOCOM4 (SCE)
  • Sorcery (SCE)
  • Sports Champions (SCE)
  • Start the Party! (SCE)
  • The Fight: Lights Out (SCE)
  • The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (WB Games)
  • The Shoot (SCE)
  • The Sly Collection (SCE)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (EA)
  • Time Crisis: Raizing Storm (Namco Bandai)
  • Toy Story 3: The Videogame (Disney)
  • TRON: The Videogame (Disney)
  • Tumble (SCE) PSN title
  • TV SuperStars (SCE)

 

and how is that bad for a peripheral in contrast to a console launch? :S I mean really? and trust me after TGS and GC that list will be longer as well

ps: might wanna remove those 'cancelled' titles from the wii line up as well, kinda of useless for them to be there no?

Nice defense, moving from essentially "you clearly know little about the lineups" to "why even compare lineups?".  Before we really get started I'm just going to ask, how far do you plan to Move those goalposts?

Also, who's to say all those Move games will release?  I'm not comparing actual releases, I'm comparing a relative snapshot of the announced lineups at the same point and time.  If Sony's claim is really that they're bringing Motion to the core, maybe they should've staid awake the past 4 years?

Until they are cancelled you can't speculate, the oens that were already cancelled you can't deny, stop spinning it

and lol nope I meant it, you clearly have no idea or your just saying it for the sake of it, Move as a peripheral launch has a great number of titles already announced for it with TGS and GC on the way..Sony has a lot of Non Move games coming too ya know? It's just an add on which is getting nice support

They were awake they were brining a long lsit of great titles for the owners thanks...dunno what your comment even means really...take off thos TBA and cancelled ones out and you have a great lsit of titles for a non console launch

But surely Jarrod, I expected more unbiase reply from ya here, seeing how your so in partial in Ninty matters :D I'm literally in shock here

Speculation works both ways.  And I'm not doing any of it even, again I'm making the fairest comparison one can relative to Move and Wii this gen; announced lineups a couple months pre-release for their major motion initiatives.  Wii also got a ton more announcements at the fall 2006 TGS, when we get there I can definitely do a new list for each if you really want. 

And even taking off the TBA titles from the Wii list, it absolutely smokes Move from a core perspective.  The diversionary "peripheral" argument also sort of falls flat considering Sony said they're treating Move as if they're "launching a new platform".   I'm not the one drawing these comparisons, Sony quite literally is.  I guess it's not just their vocal fans who are clueless. ;)



M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Btw from that awesome fun list of win, what does these stand for

TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games? ?


It's more a list of PWN.  And you really need me to explain what "could've become any number of games?" means?  Are you ESL or something?


lol asking a question now is ESL? way to be a native speaker there sport

and yea PWN, wow what great Engirish you a speak a sir, keep it up ;) go bring another list of win please

I'm just curious?  I mean, I thought "could've become any number of games?" is pretty straightforward for english speakers?

And please, do keep denigrating and dismissing the list you essentially asked for.  Would you like a shovel, it might make this easier?



jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Btw from that awesome fun list of win, what does these stand for

TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games? ?


It's more a list of PWN.  And you really need me to explain what "could've become any number of games?" means?  Are you ESL or something?


lol asking a question now is ESL? way to be a native speaker there sport

and yea PWN, wow what great Engirish you a speak a sir, keep it up ;) go bring another list of win please

I'm just curious?  I mean, I thought "could've become any number of games?" is pretty straightforward for english speakers?

And please, do keep denigrating and dismissing the list you essentially asked for.  Would you like a shovel, it might make this easier?


lol your comparing wii launch (a console) to the Move (a peripheral) and yet your so determined say the Move line up isn't good? what other peripheral device out there had support like this"

No it's not pretty straightforward nor is it obvious. I was asking what it means by any number of games, what games does it stand for? launch titles? games that came out years later? what you mean could have become? or did you mean later became or come to be known as several titles? In w/e language it is, asking a question about a remark that is vague in nature is not a problem, however if something like that leads to being questioned ones language skilled that's just premature. It is not abotu language you speak, it's about not being able to properly answer a question without snide remarks which is a sad situation, I sincerely hope you get help one day Jarrod :) personality issues like that can't be that popular

Might wanna keep that shovel for your epic full of win lsit of TBA and cancelled titles in comaprison to a peripheral device launch titles ;) might help ya next time..but bring a bigger shovel tho, the fail is too big for the one you carry around now



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jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
Zlejedi said:
richardhutnik said:
Metallicube said:

Question is, will there be enough of a consumer base, who are core gamers.. AND own a PS3, AND want motion controls, AND don't already own a Wii?

Nobody is going to buy a PS3 just for Move, so needs to focus its marketting on its existing user base, and I'm not sure there is a huge market for more core based motion controls. Besides, Nintendo is already bringing motion control to the core domain, and it's called Zelda: Skyward Sword.

I have been seeing the core bash motion control on here over and over.  I am curious, even if Move works real well, if the core market would end up buying it.

There's quite a big diffrence beetween motion controls coming in underpowered 480p capable console with extremly limited supply of titles worth buying, which is sold at astronomical prices and motion controls added for proper console with huge existing library of games and support for good amount of games worth playing.

lol.  That line's pretty rich given the announced Move lineup so far.  The herdcore may lament Wii's portfolio, but even it's announced pre-launch lineup absolutely slaughters what Sony's trying to peddle Move with...

Then you need to read up more on the line up of games cuz clearly you don't seem to know much of it

lol, so clueless. Let's actually compare the announced lineups then...

 

E3 2006 announced Wii lineup (minus Virtual Console)

 

  • Action title (Banpresto) became Crayon Shin-Chan
  • Action title (D3 Publisher) became Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
  • Action title (Eidos) became Tomb Raider Anniversary
  • Action title (From Software) became Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
  • Action title (Milestone) canceled
  • Action title (Namco Bandai) became Ennichi no Tatsujin
  • Action title (Tomy) planned Zoids game, canceled
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ)
  • Battle title (Tomy) became Naruto Shippuden! Clash of Ninja Revolution
  • Blitz: the League (Midway)
  • Bomberman (Hudson) became Bomberman Land Wii
  • Boxing title (AQ Interactive) became Victorious Boxers: Revolution
  • Bust-A-Move Bash! (Majesco)
  • Call of Duty 3 (Activision)
  • Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends (Taito)
  • Densha de Go! (Taito) became Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX: Sanyou Shinkansen Hen
  • Digimon (Namco Bandai) canceled
  • Disaster: Day of Crisis (Nintendo)
  • Dinsey/Pixar's Cars (THQ)
  • Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action (BVG)
  • Dinsey's Meet the Robinsons (BVG)
  • Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari)
  • Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix)
  • elebits (Konami)
  • Excite Truck (Nintendo)
  • Far Cry (Ubisoft) became Far Cry Vengeance
  • Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (Square Enix)
  • Final Furlong (Namco Bandai) became Family Jockey
  • Fire Emblem (Nintendo) became Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
  • Flight title (Hudson) became Wing Island
  • Happy Feet (Midway)
  • Harvest Moon (Marvelous) became Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility 
  • Heroes (Marvelous) became No More Heroes
  • Jawa (Spike) became Jawa: Mammoth to Himitsu no Ishi
  • Legend of the River King series (Marvelous) canceled 
  • Madden NFL 07 (EA)
  • Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
  • Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance (Activision)
  • Medal of Homor Airborne (EA) became Medal of Honor Vanguard
  • Metal Slug Anthology (SNK Playmore)
  • Metroid Prime III: Corruption (Nintendo)
  • Mobile Suit Gundam (Namco Bandai)became Mobile Suit Gundam MS Sensen 0079
  • Mortal Kombat Armageddon (Midway)
  • Mr D Goes to Town (Mastiff) became Domino Rally, released by UFO
  • Necro-Nesia (Spike) became Escape from Bug Island
  • Need for Speed Carbon (EA)
  • One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Namco Bandai)
  • Open Season (Ubisoft)
  • Pac-Man Carnival (Namco Bandai) became Namco Museum Remix
  • Project HAMMER (Nintendo) canceled
  • Puzzle title (Hudson) became Kororinpa: Marble Mania
  • Shooter title (Milestone) became Ultimate Shooting Collection
  • SIMPLE Series (D3 Publisher)
  • Sims (EA) became MySims
  • Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
  • Racing title (Genki) canceled
  • Racing title (MTO) became GT Pro Series
  • Racing title (Ubisoft) became Monster Racing 4x4
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
  • Red Steel (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
  • Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)
  • RPG title (Namco Bandai) became Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
  • Sadness (Nibris) canceled
  • San-X-All-Star Revolution (MTO) canceled
  • Samurai Warriors Wave (Koei) became Samurai Warriors Katana
  • SD Gundam Scad Hammers (Namco Bandai) became SD Gundam G-Breaker
  • Soccer title (Konami) became Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  • Sonic WildFire (Sega) became Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • SpongeBob SquarePants: the Creature from Krusty Krab (THQ)
  • Super Monkey Ball: Banan Blitz (Sega)
  • Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
  • Super Smash Bros. Wii (Nintendo) became Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  • Super Swing Golf (Tecmo)
  • Tamagotchi (Namco Bandai) became Tamagotchi Party On!
  • TBA title (Epoch) canceled
  • TBA title (Jaleco) became Ougon no Kizuna
  • TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games?
  • TBA title (The Game Factory) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (Vivendi Universal) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (WB Games) could've become any number of games? 
  • The Ant Bully (Midway)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (EA)
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft)
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision)
  • Turn it Around! (Taito) became Furufuru Park
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
  • Wario Ware Wii (Nintendo) became Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
  • Wii Music Orchestra (Nintendo) became Wii Music
  • Wii Play (Nintendo)
  • Wii Sports (Nintendo)

E3 2010 announced Move lineup 

 

  • Ape Escape (SCE)
  • Beat Sketcher (SCE) PSN title
  • Brunswick Pro Bowling (Crave)
  • Dead Space Extraction (EA) PSN title
  • Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Crave)
  • echocrome (SCE) PSN title
  • EyePet (SCE)
  • Heavy Rain (SCE)
  • Heroes on the Move (SCE)
  • High Velocity Bowling (SCE) PSN title
  • Hustle Kings (SCE) PSN title
  • John Daly's Pro Stroke Golf (OG)
  • Killzone 3 (SCE)
  • Kung Fu Live (Virtual Air Guitar) PSN title
  • LittleBig Planet 2 (SCE)
  • NBA 2K11 (2K)
  • Pain (SCE) PSN title
  • Racquet Sports (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 5 Gold (Capcom)
  • RUSE (Ubisoft)
  • SingStar Dance (SCE)
  • SOCOM4 (SCE)
  • Sorcery (SCE)
  • Sports Champions (SCE)
  • Start the Party! (SCE)
  • The Fight: Lights Out (SCE)
  • The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (WB Games)
  • The Shoot (SCE)
  • The Sly Collection (SCE)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (EA)
  • Time Crisis: Raizing Storm (Namco Bandai)
  • Toy Story 3: The Videogame (Disney)
  • TRON: The Videogame (Disney)
  • Tumble (SCE) PSN title
  • TV SuperStars (SCE)

 

If you're going to include untitled, unannounced, and even cancelled games for the Wii list then the least you can do is include them for PlayStation Move as well.

Ape Escape 4 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Beat Sketch! (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Brunswick Pro Bowling (Crave Entertainment)
Dead Space: Extraction (Electronic Arts)
Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Crave Entertainment)
Echochrome ii (Sony Computer Entertainment)
EyePet (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Fight: Lights Out (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Flower (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Grand Slam Tennis (Electronic Arts)
Heavy Rain (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Heroes on the Move (Sony Computer Entertainment)
High Velocity Bowling (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Hustle Kings (Sony Computer Entertainment)
John Daly's ProStroke Golf (O-Games)
Killzone 3 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Kung Fu Rider (Sony Computer Entertainment)
LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Entertainment)
LittleBigPlanet 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (WB Games)
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
NBA 2K11 (2K Sports)
Pain (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Planet Minigolf (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Raquet Sports (Ubisoft)
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom)
R.U.S.E. (Ubisoft)
The Shoot (Sony Computer Entertainment)
SingStar Dance (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Sly Collection (Sony Computer Entertainment)
SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Sorcery (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Sports Champions (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Start the Party (Sony Computer Entertainment)
TBA Title (505 Games)
TBA Title (Activision)
TBA Title (AQ Interactive)
TBA Title (Arc System Works)
TBA Title (Atlus)
TBA Title (BigBen Interactive)
TBA Title (CCP Games)
TBA Title (Cyberfront Corporation)
TBA Title (From Software)
TBA Title (Game Republic)
TBA Title (Gust)
TBA Title (Hudson Soft)
TBA Title (Irem)
TBA TItle (Koei)
TBA Title (Konami)
TBA Title (Majesco Entertainment)
TBA Title (Marvelous Entertainment)
TBA Title (Ongakuken)
TBA Title (Oxygen Games)
TBA Title (Paon)
TBA Title (Q Entertainment)
TBA Title (Q-Games)
TBA Title (Sega)
TBA Title (Sony Online Entertainment)
TBA Title (Spike)
TBA Title (Square Enix)
TBA Title (Tecmo)
TBA Title (THQ)
TBA Title (Zoo Entertainment)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
Time Crisis: Razing Storm (Namco Bandai Games)
Toy Story 3: The Video Game (Disney Interactive Studios)
Tron: Evolution (Disney Interactive Studios)
Tumble (Sony Computer Entertainment)
TV Superstars (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Under Siege (Sony Computer Entertainment)

70 games for a peripheral compared to 92 games for a system. Certainly nothing to take lightly. Especially when you actually compare it other peripherals like the Wii Balance Board, Wii Motion Plus, and Kinect.





M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Btw from that awesome fun list of win, what does these stand for

TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games? ?


It's more a list of PWN.  And you really need me to explain what "could've become any number of games?" means?  Are you ESL or something?


lol asking a question now is ESL? way to be a native speaker there sport

and yea PWN, wow what great Engirish you a speak a sir, keep it up ;) go bring another list of win please

I'm just curious?  I mean, I thought "could've become any number of games?" is pretty straightforward for english speakers?

And please, do keep denigrating and dismissing the list you essentially asked for.  Would you like a shovel, it might make this easier?


lol your comparing wii launch (a console) to the Move (a peripheral) and yet your so determined say the Move line up isn't good? what other peripheral device out there had support like this"

No it's not pretty straightforward nor is it obvious. I was asking what it means by any number of games, what games does it stand for? launch titles? games that came out years later? what you mean could have become? or did you mean later became or come to be known as several titles? In w/e language it is, asking a question about a remark that is vague in nature is not a problem, however if something like that leads to being questioned ones language skilled that's just premature. It is not abotu language you speak, it's about not being able to properly answer a question without snide remarks which is a sad situation, I sincerely hope you get help one day Jarrod :) personality issues like that can't be that popular

Might wanna keep that shovel for your epic full of win lsit of TBA and cancelled titles in comaprison to a peripheral device launch titles ;) might help ya next time..but bring a bigger shovel tho, the fail is too big for the one you carry around now

Once again, Sony themselves have said Move isn't being handled like a "peripheral", it's being handled like a full new platform launch (echoing Microsoft previous Natal PR I might add).  Why do you keep skirting that exactly?  If Sony says it's not just a peripheral, why do you keep insisting on treating it as one?

It means pretty much what it says, it's difficult to narrow down from the eventual releases as there is more than one title it could've become.  "Personality issues"?  lol, so from deflection to dismissal to personal attacks.  We're almost full circle.

Move's lineup sucks ass from a core perspective, despite PR claims to the contrary.  There's no getting around that really... even the pitiful Wii launch lineup from years ago embarrasses it, which makes Hirai's comments all the more laughable.  Probably better to just accept the reality and Move along...



jarrod said:

Once again, Sony themselves have said Move isn't being handled like a "peripheral", it's being handled like a full new platform launch (echoing Microsoft previous Natal PR I might add). 

Move's lineup sucks ass from a core perspective.


1. Link?

2. That's your opinion. I personally thinks it's awesome.



Seihyouken said:
jarrod said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
jarrod said:
Zlejedi said:
richardhutnik said:
Metallicube said:

Question is, will there be enough of a consumer base, who are core gamers.. AND own a PS3, AND want motion controls, AND don't already own a Wii?

Nobody is going to buy a PS3 just for Move, so needs to focus its marketting on its existing user base, and I'm not sure there is a huge market for more core based motion controls. Besides, Nintendo is already bringing motion control to the core domain, and it's called Zelda: Skyward Sword.

I have been seeing the core bash motion control on here over and over.  I am curious, even if Move works real well, if the core market would end up buying it.

There's quite a big diffrence beetween motion controls coming in underpowered 480p capable console with extremly limited supply of titles worth buying, which is sold at astronomical prices and motion controls added for proper console with huge existing library of games and support for good amount of games worth playing.

lol.  That line's pretty rich given the announced Move lineup so far.  The herdcore may lament Wii's portfolio, but even it's announced pre-launch lineup absolutely slaughters what Sony's trying to peddle Move with...

Then you need to read up more on the line up of games cuz clearly you don't seem to know much of it

lol, so clueless. Let's actually compare the announced lineups then...

 

E3 2006 announced Wii lineup (minus Virtual Console)

 

  • Action title (Banpresto) became Crayon Shin-Chan
  • Action title (D3 Publisher) became Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
  • Action title (Eidos) became Tomb Raider Anniversary
  • Action title (From Software) became Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
  • Action title (Milestone) canceled
  • Action title (Namco Bandai) became Ennichi no Tatsujin
  • Action title (Tomy) planned Zoids game, canceled
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ)
  • Battle title (Tomy) became Naruto Shippuden! Clash of Ninja Revolution
  • Blitz: the League (Midway)
  • Bomberman (Hudson) became Bomberman Land Wii
  • Boxing title (AQ Interactive) became Victorious Boxers: Revolution
  • Bust-A-Move Bash! (Majesco)
  • Call of Duty 3 (Activision)
  • Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends (Taito)
  • Densha de Go! (Taito) became Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX: Sanyou Shinkansen Hen
  • Digimon (Namco Bandai) canceled
  • Disaster: Day of Crisis (Nintendo)
  • Dinsey/Pixar's Cars (THQ)
  • Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action (BVG)
  • Dinsey's Meet the Robinsons (BVG)
  • Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari)
  • Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square Enix)
  • elebits (Konami)
  • Excite Truck (Nintendo)
  • Far Cry (Ubisoft) became Far Cry Vengeance
  • Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (Square Enix)
  • Final Furlong (Namco Bandai) became Family Jockey
  • Fire Emblem (Nintendo) became Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
  • Flight title (Hudson) became Wing Island
  • Happy Feet (Midway)
  • Harvest Moon (Marvelous) became Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility 
  • Heroes (Marvelous) became No More Heroes
  • Jawa (Spike) became Jawa: Mammoth to Himitsu no Ishi
  • Legend of the River King series (Marvelous) canceled 
  • Madden NFL 07 (EA)
  • Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
  • Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
  • Marvel Ultimate Alliance (Activision)
  • Medal of Homor Airborne (EA) became Medal of Honor Vanguard
  • Metal Slug Anthology (SNK Playmore)
  • Metroid Prime III: Corruption (Nintendo)
  • Mobile Suit Gundam (Namco Bandai)became Mobile Suit Gundam MS Sensen 0079
  • Mortal Kombat Armageddon (Midway)
  • Mr D Goes to Town (Mastiff) became Domino Rally, released by UFO
  • Necro-Nesia (Spike) became Escape from Bug Island
  • Need for Speed Carbon (EA)
  • One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Namco Bandai)
  • Open Season (Ubisoft)
  • Pac-Man Carnival (Namco Bandai) became Namco Museum Remix
  • Project HAMMER (Nintendo) canceled
  • Puzzle title (Hudson) became Kororinpa: Marble Mania
  • Shooter title (Milestone) became Ultimate Shooting Collection
  • SIMPLE Series (D3 Publisher)
  • Sims (EA) became MySims
  • Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
  • Racing title (Genki) canceled
  • Racing title (MTO) became GT Pro Series
  • Racing title (Ubisoft) became Monster Racing 4x4
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
  • Red Steel (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
  • Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)
  • RPG title (Namco Bandai) became Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
  • Sadness (Nibris) canceled
  • San-X-All-Star Revolution (MTO) canceled
  • Samurai Warriors Wave (Koei) became Samurai Warriors Katana
  • SD Gundam Scad Hammers (Namco Bandai) became SD Gundam G-Breaker
  • Soccer title (Konami) became Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  • Sonic WildFire (Sega) became Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • SpongeBob SquarePants: the Creature from Krusty Krab (THQ)
  • Super Monkey Ball: Banan Blitz (Sega)
  • Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
  • Super Smash Bros. Wii (Nintendo) became Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  • Super Swing Golf (Tecmo)
  • Tamagotchi (Namco Bandai) became Tamagotchi Party On!
  • TBA title (Epoch) canceled
  • TBA title (Jaleco) became Ougon no Kizuna
  • TBA title (Namco Bandai) could've become any number of games?
  • TBA title (The Game Factory) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (Vivendi Universal) could've become any number of games? 
  • TBA title (WB Games) could've become any number of games? 
  • The Ant Bully (Midway)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (EA)
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft)
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision)
  • Turn it Around! (Taito) became Furufuru Park
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
  • Wario Ware Wii (Nintendo) became Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
  • Wii Music Orchestra (Nintendo) became Wii Music
  • Wii Play (Nintendo)
  • Wii Sports (Nintendo)

E3 2010 announced Move lineup 

 

  • Ape Escape (SCE)
  • Beat Sketcher (SCE) PSN title
  • Brunswick Pro Bowling (Crave)
  • Dead Space Extraction (EA) PSN title
  • Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Crave)
  • echocrome (SCE) PSN title
  • EyePet (SCE)
  • Heavy Rain (SCE)
  • Heroes on the Move (SCE)
  • High Velocity Bowling (SCE) PSN title
  • Hustle Kings (SCE) PSN title
  • John Daly's Pro Stroke Golf (OG)
  • Killzone 3 (SCE)
  • Kung Fu Live (Virtual Air Guitar) PSN title
  • LittleBig Planet 2 (SCE)
  • NBA 2K11 (2K)
  • Pain (SCE) PSN title
  • Racquet Sports (Ubisoft)
  • Resident Evil 5 Gold (Capcom)
  • RUSE (Ubisoft)
  • SingStar Dance (SCE)
  • SOCOM4 (SCE)
  • Sorcery (SCE)
  • Sports Champions (SCE)
  • Start the Party! (SCE)
  • The Fight: Lights Out (SCE)
  • The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (WB Games)
  • The Shoot (SCE)
  • The Sly Collection (SCE)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (EA)
  • Time Crisis: Raizing Storm (Namco Bandai)
  • Toy Story 3: The Videogame (Disney)
  • TRON: The Videogame (Disney)
  • Tumble (SCE) PSN title
  • TV SuperStars (SCE)

 

If you're going to include untitled, unannounced, and even cancelled games for the Wii list then the least you can do is include them for PlayStation Move as well.

Ape Escape 4 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Beat Sketch! (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Brunswick Pro Bowling (Crave Entertainment)
Dead Space: Extraction (Electronic Arts)
Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Crave Entertainment)
Echochrome ii (Sony Computer Entertainment)
EyePet (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Fight: Lights Out (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Flower (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Grand Slam Tennis (Electronic Arts)
Heavy Rain (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Heroes on the Move (Sony Computer Entertainment)
High Velocity Bowling (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Hustle Kings (Sony Computer Entertainment)
John Daly's ProStroke Golf (O-Games)
Killzone 3 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Kung Fu Rider (Sony Computer Entertainment)
LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Entertainment)
LittleBigPlanet 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (WB Games)
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
NBA 2K11 (2K Sports)
Pain (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Planet Minigolf (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Raquet Sports (Ubisoft)
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom)
R.U.S.E. (Ubisoft)
The Shoot (Sony Computer Entertainment)
SingStar Dance (Sony Computer Entertainment)
The Sly Collection (Sony Computer Entertainment)
SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Sorcery (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Sports Champions (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Start the Party (Sony Computer Entertainment)
TBA Title (505 Games)
TBA Title (Activision)
TBA Title (AQ Interactive)
TBA Title (Arc System Works)
TBA Title (Atlus)
TBA Title (BigBen Interactive)
TBA Title (CCP Games)
TBA Title (Cyberfront Corporation)
TBA Title (From Software)
TBA Title (Game Republic)
TBA Title (Gust)
TBA Title (Hudson Soft)
TBA Title (Irem)
TBA TItle (Koei)
TBA Title (Konami)
TBA Title (Majesco Entertainment)
TBA Title (Marvelous Entertainment)
TBA Title (Ongakuken)
TBA Title (Oxygen Games)
TBA Title (Paon)
TBA Title (Q Entertainment)
TBA Title (Q-Games)
TBA Title (Sega)
TBA Title (Sony Online Entertainment)
TBA Title (Spike)
TBA Title (Square Enix)
TBA Title (Tecmo)
TBA Title (THQ)
TBA Title (Zoo Entertainment)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
Time Crisis: Razing Storm (Namco Bandai Games)
Toy Story 3: The Video Game (Disney Interactive Studios)
Tron: Evolution (Disney Interactive Studios)
Tumble (Sony Computer Entertainment)
TV Superstars (Sony Computer Entertainment)
Under Siege (Sony Computer Entertainment)

70 games for a peripheral compared to 92 games for a system. Certainly nothing to take lightly. Especially when you actually compare it other peripherals like the Wii Balance Board, Wii Motion Plus, and Kinect.

 



Correction, those aren't announced titles, you're simply taking the list of developers who announced "support" and attributing one title each.  I could do the same for Wii, as it also had more companies pledge "support" than just the specific titles I listed.

For other past peripherals with great support, I'd say the N64 Rumble Pack, the Wii Classic Controller/Pro, PC Engine CD-ROM2, PS2 network adapter, PocketStation and the PS1 DualShock all came out pretty good.  Kinect is also looking better from a 3rd party perspective, over half the Move games known of are from Sony themselves, which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement when you look at the numbers...



Jay520 said:
jarrod said:

Once again, Sony themselves have said Move isn't being handled like a "peripheral", it's being handled like a full new platform launch (echoing Microsoft previous Natal PR I might add). 

Move's lineup sucks ass from a core perspective.


1. Link?

2. That's your opinion. I personally thinks it's awesome.

1. I linked in my previous statement.  Read the thread.

2. By any objective measure, it's pretty bad.  If Nintendo came out and announced a similar lineup for Wii 2/HD/whatever, they'd be ridiculed mercilessly.