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hunter_alien said:

Why is everybody complaining for an 8? Its a tipycal JRPG, an those rarely get amazing review scores in the west. By getting an 8 from IGN it prooves that its probably a great JRPG

 


I'm not complaining about the score, I'm complaining about the content of the review.



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I wouldn't believe IGN if they told me the sky was blue, that's how very little I trust them.I'm playing the game right now and I can easily see that this game will probably be the best original non remake/port rpg on the DS. It's just extremely charming and addictive, it's Dragon Quest, something the IGN reviewer hasn't realized yet.



themanwithnoname said:
Boutros said:

I kind of expected it though but I was hoping for more.

But his review is dumb. "Bland battle system", that's what Dragon Quest is all about and that's why I love it so much.


I have a problem with both that and saying "As I traveled through the world of Dragon Quest IX, I felt like I was working my way down the JRPG checklist. Grassy field? Check. Forest? Check. Desert town? Check. This is all too familiar to fans of the genre."

By that argument, no matter what the game did, it would've been "too familiar" and for the record, I can't remember the last JRPG I played that had a desert town in it.

.....clearly those types of environs are only found in jrpgs........but yeah i must be living in a jrpg i saw two of those three this afternoon on my way to lunch.......freaking fetch quests.... :)



a good score, i would score the game in the low 9's myself though



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i say that score is spot on lol.



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andremop said:
Boutros said:

I kind of expected it though but I was hoping for more.

But his review is dumb. "Bland battle system", that's what Dragon Quest is all about and that's why I love it so much.


I'm just worried about the part where they say that the main focus of this game for the first time is multiplayer.

I don't really know anyone who's buying this. Is this feature over the internet too? If not, am I going to play only half a game?

The game is single-player first and multi-player second. You can complete the entire game alone and be perfectly satisfied with the experience. Multiplayer is just a bonus.



axumblade said:

8 is actually a really good score considering it's IGN who reviewed this. RPG's this generation tend to get torn apart critically.

The 1st sentence does not make any sense as it implies that the IGN guys are some sort of harsh reviewers, who generally give lower scores than other media, which they aren't. IMO they are not a harsh review site, they are a bad review site.

The 2nd sentence is wrong, see Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Oblivion... If you had claimed though that old-school style RPGs this gen often seem to be underrated by many western reviewers , I'd agreed.

As I said earlier in this thread, my most trusted game magazine gave DQIX a score of 87. The reviewer from this magazine clearly loves DQ games and describes excellently what these games are about and why he finds them fascinating (which was very informative for me as a DQ noob), but being a fan doesn't mean he will give out extremely high or even 90plus  scores by default. He gave the DS remakes of DQIV a 82 and DQV a 85 afair. That's how a known franchise should be rated imo: Give it to someone who loves the specific (sub-)genre and who knows what he/she's talking about, but at the same time is informed and critical enough to detect the actual shortcomings.



The problem for me with the review is that a lot of what he marked the game down for are things I like about Dragon Quest and would be upset if they changed.  I'm playing Dragon Quest IX right now and it is the most fun I've had with a game in a long, long time.

Criticizing a game's flaws is one thing, but criticizing aspects of the games that aren't flaws doesn't make sense to me.  Examples:  You don't criticize a game for being a shooter that uses guns... so why criticize a rpg with fantasy environments?  MMOs aren't required to have emotionally developing playable characters... why is a JRPG where you create the characters and are supposed to use your imagination be held with higher standards?  Why should a massive DS game (with clearly no room for anything else) be marked down for lacking voice overs, which would have been of poor quality and possibly from bad actors?  He criticizes the game for not having a "fun battle system", claims he has nothing against turn-based systems (Dragon Quest being known for having one of the most sophisticated, fine-tuned turn-based systems), yet I have always enjoyed playing with Dragon Quest battle systems because they revolve more around strategy and being satisfied by planning out my moves just right than the quick reflex requiring, often shallow, battle systems of more flashy rpgs (I like those games too :P).

I guess I sound a bit whiny, but reviews like the above frustrate me, because it isn't a professional critique.  It is a guy stating his personal preferences and saying the game is bad because they aren't lining up with those preferences.  Whenever I review games, I put aside whether or not I like the game, or how much I do, and I consider whether someone else would and what the target audience would think of it and how well it performs regardless.

Oh well, I won't let IGN ruin my fun, I am going to resume my enjoyment :D!



I will stay with this http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3180316&p=39





axumblade said:

8 is actually a really good score considering it's IGN who reviewed this. RPG's this generation tend to get torn apart critically.


Personally I don't think this gen's JRPGs have been that impressive.  So I somewhat agree with IGN's take on this gen's JRPGs in general.  The only JRPGs that I really liked this gen were Valkyria Chronicles, Lost Odyssey, and Tales of Vesperia.  And all 3 got >8.0 from IGN.  I wouldn't say that IGN torn apart a lot of JRPGs this gen.  They gave a lot of mediocre JRPGs positive reviews (ie. Infinite Undiscovery, Resonance of Fate, Star Ocean: TLH, Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon).