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kowenicki said:
BBH said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Historically 360 boosts have been short lived.

So we should wait and see. America/Kinect should keep the 360 ahead of the PS3 until Sony's next price cut. Basically, no chance of PS3 outselling 360 *this generation* now in my opinion.



yeah that boost in 2008 didn't last very long....  I think it was only about 10 months.

More like four.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=112661&page=1&str=1152294608#

Look at 2008 vs 2009 similar months.

I suppose it could still be considered a boost if numbers don't rise, but are prevented from going lower?

I'll split the difference with you... 7 months

 

Even though the graphs based on VGC numbers basically show 4?

Even still, 7 months (4 actually) is a short boost for going to such a low price point. The PS3 has had a longer, better boost in going to $299.

PS3 boosts are bigger up to now, that's a fact. Kinect may be a different story though for thr 360.



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BenVTrigger said:
Infamous said:

Okay, to the Gamestop guy posting, he's absolutely correct (back-ordered/not enough 360 S for demand, high Kinect pre-orders DESPITE no advertisment yet, launching in November, and high pricepoint according to teh internetz). All the Gamestops in my district are the same exact way. Dozens of people come in every single day asking for the slim and we have to say that they need to wait around 2-3 weeks until we have them in stock.

Yesterday we got 1/3rd of the preorder slims and I had to go down the list and call everyone to pick it up as you only have a 48 hour period to do so. One guy rushed from New Jersey because he's been having withdrawals without his 360 for 3 weeks, lol. Also almost every retailer/site is backordered, so I expect even bigger 360 numbers in America in the coming weeks. I can't speak for Walmart though, as there is none in NYC.

Not to mention the damn thing isn't even out in Europe, and this is the dry season (Summer); imagine what this is going to do in the holiday season, ESPECIALLY combined with Reach and Kinect. People, specifically fanboys it seems, seem to underestimate Kinect and the casual/female crowd, and anyone who works at a Gamestop will tell you that. Hell, ever since we got that new Kinect commercial showing on our TV at the store, people see it and automatically pre-order, or hound you with questions. Move, on the other hand, we have advertisement for (since it comes out 2 months earlier), and it's extremely less popular. Maybe it's because Sony is trying to target the "hardcore" crowd, which doesn't give two shits about motion control (my experience IRL), or maybe it's because it costs you $210 without tax to utilize Move for 2 players, not counting accessories/peripherals if you want them. Maybe it's because it's so very close to resembling a wiimote/nunchuck; I don't know. I don't care for motion controls myself, but my manager, girlfriend and some of my friends are dying to play Dance Central.

But let me not go off-topic here. All those begrudged people posting "don't worry, the numbers will go back to normal" since the first week the slim released couldn't be more wrong. I also expect bigger America numbers in the next 2 weeks (whatever week it becomes stocked at retailers).


This post is 100% correct.  Litteraly every single thing you listed is the exact same way our stores are here in Missouri.  At this rate the 360 is going to have a Massive holiday and yeah I know this is slightly off topic but our Move pre-orders are horrible.  

Hrm, so it's the same down south, lol. I wonder how it's like on the west coast.



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BBH said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Historically 360 boosts have been short lived.

So we should wait and see. America/Kinect should keep the 360 ahead of the PS3 until Sony's next price cut. Basically, no chance of PS3 outselling 360 *this generation* now in my opinion.



yeah that boost in 2008 didn't last very long....  I think it was only about 10 months.

More like four.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=112661&page=1&str=1152294608#

Look at 2008 vs 2009 similar months.

I suppose it could still be considered a boost if numbers don't rise, but are prevented from going lower?


According to your own charts, seems about 6 months - and almost 10, if you count the ~17,000 difference in March/April of 2009 (even though PS3 outsold the 360 in this period - it relinquished it two months later,showing a sustained boost for 360 sales).

Don't know about you - but I think you just proved yourself wrong.



Demotruk said:
trestres said:

Is this Wii's lowest week ever?


Good question, why don't you go check :p


There's no more graphs with weekly sales :(



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BBH said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Historically 360 boosts have been short lived.

So we should wait and see. America/Kinect should keep the 360 ahead of the PS3 until Sony's next price cut. Basically, no chance of PS3 outselling 360 *this generation* now in my opinion.



yeah that boost in 2008 didn't last very long....  I think it was only about 10 months.

More like four.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=112661&page=1&str=1152294608#

Look at 2008 vs 2009 similar months.

I suppose it could still be considered a boost if numbers don't rise, but are prevented from going lower?

I'll split the difference with you... 7 months

 

Even though the graphs based on VGC numbers basically show 4?

Even still, 7 months (4 actually) is a short boost for going to such a low price point. The PS3 has had a longer, better boost in going to $299.

PS3 boosts are bigger up to now, that's a fact. Kinect may be a different story though for thr 360.

have you looked a PS3 2010 v 2008?



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kowenicki said:
BBH said:
andremop said:
BBH said:
andremop said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Historically 360 boosts have been short lived.

So we should wait and see. America/Kinect should keep the 360 ahead of the PS3 until Sony's next price cut. Basically, no chance of PS3 outselling 360 *this generation* now in my opinion.



yeah that boost in 2008 didn't last very long....  I think it was only about 10 months.


But, but, but... ok, he was owned.

*Looks at your avatar*

Life has owned you.

Nice playing with you, dickhead!

If only you had hummility to say you were wrong...

I'm not going to report you because I'm not like that.

Now  look at my reply to Kowen, with graphs to back me up. I don't think I'm the one that's wrong.

Really, I come in here, state my opinion, get sarcastically called out for it, then some anime fan says I got owned, and all the time I was right...

He was wayyyyyy out of order there, and will likely receive a deserved ban.

but it was more like 7 months...

Okay, BBH, I'm not the type of user who looks for bans  (never got one, never thought I would get one), so before I get that, I'm sorry. This is not a sorry as in "trying to avoid it", its just a " before I'm unable to post" type of sorry!

Like I said, I was playing (kidding) in the first post, but maybe a got a bit too low. Okay, now I wait.



Rawnchie14 said:
BBH said:
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Historically 360 boosts have been short lived.

So we should wait and see. America/Kinect should keep the 360 ahead of the PS3 until Sony's next price cut. Basically, no chance of PS3 outselling 360 *this generation* now in my opinion.



yeah that boost in 2008 didn't last very long....  I think it was only about 10 months.

More like four.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=112661&page=1&str=1152294608#

Look at 2008 vs 2009 similar months.

I suppose it could still be considered a boost if numbers don't rise, but are prevented from going lower?


According to your own charts, seems about 6 months - and almost 10, if you count the ~17,000 difference in March/April of 2009 (even though PS3 outsold the 360 in this period - it relinquished it two months later,showing a sustained boost for 360 sales).

Don't know about you - but I think you just proved yourself wrong.

Yea, I suppose it is about 6 then, not four.

But what I said was that 360 boosts in the past have been short, obviously meaning in comparison to its competitors.

That's right, but as I say who knows if Kinect can be a game changer.



Good job for the 360.  It managed to stop the PS3 in its tracks for now. I think it'll last until august for US, and september for UK, then start up again with Reach and Kinect. Either way, Sony better Step Thier Game Up



Why are people saying the 360 bump didn't last long, it was outselling PS3 all the way up to September last year ...



 

This is my opinion, so please don't kill me. :D

The X360 is having a good boost, but this won't last a lot.

PS3 will have a rise in sales from the Move launch, while the X360 sales will reduce within one month, so PS3 will be above the 360 weekly sales again.