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dsister said:
leatherhat said:

Commercially nintendo has had the greatest success but no doubt sony has made the best first party games *cough* demons souls *cough*


From Software isn't first party

Japan Studios co-developed with From Software... So it's pretty much first party. 



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dsister said:
leatherhat said:

Commercially nintendo has had the greatest success but no doubt sony has made the best first party games *cough* demons souls *cough*


From Software isn't first party


Like seriously yo does anyone actually know what a first party game is anymore?  Studios that are owned by the consoles company, now with Demons Souls Sony Japan helped out a bit but the main company was From Software, its their IP, it;s referenced in other games THEY'VE made, and it's got the From Software feel.  And From Software has put out pretty good games on every console this gen so yeah they're leading the way for everyone



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
dsister said:
leatherhat said:

Commercially nintendo has had the greatest success but no doubt sony has made the best first party games *cough* demons souls *cough*


From Software isn't first party


Like seriously yo does anyone actually know what a first party game is anymore?  Studios that are owned by the consoles company, now with Demons Souls Sony Japan helped out a bit but the main company was From Software, its their IP, it;s referenced in other games THEY'VE made, and it's got the From Software feel.  And From Software has put out pretty good games on every console this gen so yeah they're leading the way for everyone

From software doesn't own the IP, sony does. Its a similar situation to Team ninja making metroid other M.



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I've had a thought about this the other day.

This generation, I've seen Sony raising its bar more and more, game quality wise.  And provided me with games of such quality that I've concluded that their games have reached the quality of Nintendo's.

Something that seems to be great for third parties too, is that Sony doesn't just offer to publish their games if they opt for exclusivity.  They also lend their own technicians, knowledge and financial support to help second parties achieve their goals.

 

And to clarify the confusion: Demon's Souls is a second party game.



leatherhat said:


Sony funded and the game and owns the IP. If demons souls isn't first party then neither is Halo or Metroid: Other M.


Metroid: Other M and Halo Reach are not first party games.

patapon said:

Japan Studios co-developed with From Software... So it's pretty much first party. 

They helped, but it was primarily developed by From Software. It is not 1st party



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I agree.



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dsister said:
leatherhat said:


Sony funded and the game and owns the IP. If demons souls isn't first party then neither is Halo or Metroid: Other M.


Metroid: Other M and Halo Reach are not first party games.



At least we have concurrence on that  



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Second-party developer

A second party developer is a company that is contracted by a first-party developer to make their games.



CGI-Quality said:
irstupid said:
dsister said:
leatherhat said:

Commercially nintendo has had the greatest success but no doubt sony has made the best first party games *cough* demons souls *cough*


From Software isn't first party


we should keep a list of all the games that people keep saying are first party and are not.  i bet more games have been listed in this topic so far that are not first party that are first party

Demon's Souls is a Sony-owned IP. It's 1st Party, just not 1st Party developed.

Then why did Sony not publish it in Europe?



CGI-Quality said:

The situation with Demon's Souls is one which mirrors Halo. Although it's developed by a non-Microsoft owned company, it is a 1st party title. It can't ever be on another platform, it's owned by Microsoft.


It's a 1st party IP. But it isn't a 1st party game. No matter how you try to twist it a game made by a second or third party isn't 1st party



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