Has anybody mentioned it is shinny and black yet?

I still don't think that the new Slim Xbox can attract new customers, it has nothing new over the old one except for built-in wifi and a redesign. My impression from it's sales sofar is that rabbid MS fans are buying the new HW despite having it "already".

What would suddenly attract new customers? Can someone explain this to me?

Xbox's exclusive game line up for the future is worst of the 3, the new HW is the same thing just repacked, the price is still the same for the slim model as was for the Elite... If you didn't buy Xbox already, why would you do it now, that the Xbox is basicaly loosing all it's ground, having zero momentum, shitty sales for a year and less upcomming games than anyone else?

Or maybe, if their plans about Move and Kinect go how they wish, they could be both up.

And Wii just needs some of its most waited games to be up too.

I'm not sure, but maybe all three of them could need a price cut at the right moment to meet their highest sales goals, XB360 and PS3 almost surely at least on entry level units, to make the cost of entry level Move and Kinect bundles not too high, Wii then should just need a modest reduction to keep the distances in price/value ratio. Surely Wii has still the power to reach lower income users before its competitors without losing money on HW, and it will keep this advantage until the end of this gen. Next gen, though, about costs, Sony will gather the fruits of having invested so much in the Cell and BD, as scaling it up and offering the most powerful CPU as its users expect will cost a lot less than developing it from scratch like it did this gen, BD is becoming affordable too, HDDs and RAM are dirt cheap, keeping the Cell architecture PS3 BC on PS4 will be almost automatic and PS4 dev tools will become mature and more productive earlier, so offering new things for casuals and enough power increase to keep hardcores won't make costs go out of control anymore. Time will tell, but Wii already won this gen anyway, nobody can deny it.

PakChiuCheng; I think its gonna take more than 3rd grade mockery to make kowenicki cry... grow up please.

OT: Does anyone in here still believe that the Wii will outsell the DS lifetime? It just keeps falling and falling and the elusive 50% marketshare that has been "guaranteed" for over two years keeps moving farher away. Shocking PS2 numbers imo, amazing how it holds up. Decent Wii and PS3, great DS, PSP is meh and 360 is doing ok all things considered (and it doesn't really matter much anyway, Slim release should see an increase into the 80-100k range for a couple of weeks).

how can i make a topic ?

why..?

the ps3 install base is higher.