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Yeah because the multiplayer in Wii Sports really hurt Mario Kart Wii which in turn damaged Wii Sports Resort sales, right?

Poor NSMB Wii had to compete with all the above which is why it hasn't beat MW2 combined yet.

Nintendo are so stupid for releasing multiplayer games. Hopefully they realise their mistakes soon so that they can sell more software. They also need to start charging for online otherwise the decline in gaming will only get worse. Oh and used games, let's not forget used games. Nintendo should start fining people who buy used.

Gotta save the undiztry.



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Pyro as Bill said:

Yeah because the multiplayer in Wii Sports really hurt Mario Kart Wii which in turn damaged Wii Sports Resort sales, right?

Poor NSMB Wii had to compete with all the above which is why it hasn't beat MW2 combined yet.

Nintendo are so stupid for releasing multiplayer games. Hopefully they realise their mistakes soon so that they can sell more software. They also need to start charging for online otherwise the decline in gaming will only get worse. Oh and used games, let's not forget used games. Nintendo should start fining people who buy used.

Gotta save the undiztry.

 Judging from the decline in Wii software we're seeing on a monthly basis I'd say your thesis is spot on.



jammy2211 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Yeah because the multiplayer in Wii Sports really hurt Mario Kart Wii which in turn damaged Wii Sports Resort sales, right?

Poor NSMB Wii had to compete with all the above which is why it hasn't beat MW2 combined yet.

Nintendo are so stupid for releasing multiplayer games. Hopefully they realise their mistakes soon so that they can sell more software. They also need to start charging for online otherwise the decline in gaming will only get worse. Oh and used games, let's not forget used games. Nintendo should start fining people who buy used.

Gotta save the undiztry.

 Judging from the decline in Wii software we're seeing on a monthly basis I'd say your thesis is spot on.


Exactly. Nintendo's stupid business model will doom them eventually. Nintendo needs to copy the industry if they want to survive. Profit only goes so far.

Hopefully singleplayer games like Kirby and Metroid will lead to month on month rises later in the year, assuming Donkey Kong and Wii Party's multiplayer doesn't hurt them.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Honestly,

   This is the middle of a product cycle aswell as a month in which titles (RDR,Alan Wake etc) where not as well recevied as believed buy investorx for one reason. Hardcore gamer aren't idiots! One Wii makes up half the market in the NA but there is crap for software an hardcore gamers don't play the wii. It was a purchase by parents to get there kids playing somthing and they never greated a good enough game selection because no one buys sthere sholve ware crap (Except for Mario galaxy and zelda). As for Microsoft and Sony your seeing the much more important trend. AAA games cost much more to make and the release of RDR well it did decent in sales it only was purchased after the reviews came out impressive. The pre orders where not that great but gamers wanted to see if the wild west would work. Once that happened sales were good and you say xbox sales just beating out the ps3 sales. Truth be told your seeing a dynamic in the gaming industry you've never seen before and i'm talking world wide. Xbox 360 users are now buying PS3 to get the maximum gaming expersince because AAA titles are few and far between. And some titles are exculsives. PS3 had a huge increase with the Slim and then with there software titles and GOD of War 3 then in terms of games we had a break. no really good titles until madden in Auguest and then We have the Move, Kenict, Gears, Halo, GT5, NBA 2K, Rockband, etc. All big titles. They will be big sellers as they should around x-mas but the hardware sales will set the trend. Kenict and Move are the new hardware release that will carry use for the next three years just because of development costs to software developers. So all you people pinning for new hardware can keep dreaming. Both microsoft and Sony did that to try to breath life into hardware sales. .Try to attach themselves to the Wii market in order to increase delevopers ability to sell cheaper software and keep the cycle going. This xmas and coming spring will be the biggest in gaming history. Thats when you will be able to measure weather we are moving forward or if this industry is in decline.

My guess. Sony will breath life into the market well microsoft continues a decline with Nintendo in the home console market. Before you start a flameboy war look at the reasoning. Even with the xbox slim, most of the sales increase has come from xbox owners buy new xboxs. Therefore the same person that was going to buy halo is still only buying on copy. Secondly there not introducing any new owners into the system because there was no price break and the PS3 is is the system to buy at the 299.99 mark becuase of its feature rich setup. 299.99. gets you everything espically online. Lastly the negitive press kinect will get during release. The beat the farm on this and at this point its not looking promising. There is not one game that looks revolutionare. Not one that would get hardcore gamers to say i'll spend 150 plus the game (which is over 200 why not buy a new system) for. There are still questions about how it will be used. At this point you have to stand up even to us the movie menus and such. Most of the demos that have been done have been faked and still even if they  where impressive, they where not impressive in a game developer sense.

Will find out the truth soon enough but my pick is Sony.  Sony once again will save Hardcore gamers everywhere.... Kevin Butler said so.  



Michael Pachter is typical of his generation. Grew up in the 1960s, got a free ride in college, started a career in market analysis, and is now a lead analyst on a form of entertainment he never grew up with and most likely does not currently play.

I still remember Pachter saying that Red Dead Redemption will not be a blockbuster. There are plenty of examples of him and Anita Frazier being dead wrong, but that can consume a whole 'nother thread.

Pachter is wrong and remember, he is writing for people his age in positions of influence to tell individuals and institutions where to put their money. He is not writing for us, he is writing for quarterly report minded folks who make business decisions in the same way a 5 year-old chooses which color of crayon to scribble with in Kindergarten.



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I have a simple explanation.

1. Recession: I.E. people who aren't keen gamers are going to put it lower on their list of priorities. So going outside in the middle of summer during a recession is going to be a little bit more appealing than it used to be. That oil spill doesn't help confidence much either!

2. Time of year. Since they often less keen gamers they are more likely to recieve a greater proportion of their software library as gifts. This time of year simply isn't gift giving season.



Tease.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with him.

Most of the industry will end up dying, remaining only portables, casuals and MMOGs. Maybe, just maybe, there will be room for a hardcore console based on high-sales, high-budget franchises, but that's it. 



 

 

 

 

 




Above: still the best game of the year.

Pyro as Bill said:
jammy2211 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Yeah because the multiplayer in Wii Sports really hurt Mario Kart Wii which in turn damaged Wii Sports Resort sales, right?

Poor NSMB Wii had to compete with all the above which is why it hasn't beat MW2 combined yet.

Nintendo are so stupid for releasing multiplayer games. Hopefully they realise their mistakes soon so that they can sell more software. They also need to start charging for online otherwise the decline in gaming will only get worse. Oh and used games, let's not forget used games. Nintendo should start fining people who buy used.

Gotta save the undiztry.

 Judging from the decline in Wii software we're seeing on a monthly basis I'd say your thesis is spot on.


Exactly. Nintendo's stupid business model will doom them eventually. Nintendo needs to copy the industry if they want to survive. Profit only goes so far.

Hopefully singleplayer games like Kirby and Metroid will lead to month on month rises later in the year, assuming Donkey Kong and Wii Party's multiplayer doesn't hurt them.

Me hopes you're joking.

 

If it is in decline now, imageine what it would be without Nintendo?



Above: still the best game of the year.

Ruiz_Tubbs said:

Sony once again will save Hardcore gamers everywhere.... Kevin Butler said so.  

This is hilarious! Can I put it in my sig?



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