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A203D said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, they're just standing there lol. Natal ignored the kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

That was released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect. the other one i was reffering to has been embedded. it was the one with the 2 adults and the 2 kids, the really awful one.




Not to be "that" guy but that part with "three" players only had the 1 player game footage just like the on stage demo of the game.  Plus those spots are like the original KB move commercial, where the "players" are playing some of the games with two move controllers and not a Navigation controller IE Socom.  It's doctored videos to show off the games rather than accurate depictions of people playing it.  

Also it's been noted by Microsoft themselves that you can't sit down and use Kinect at this time cause that's what the builds were designed to support.  Remember kids not every video released is accurate to the actual product (Killzone 2 target builds) you must know these videos are made to keep the image of said products high.

Not every company is like the ones of yore where they'd only release videos of current builds being played live in front of people.  This isn't to say everyone is lying to you, they do intend to try to deliver on the product shown, they're just wanting people to know what they hope to achieve.



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Seihyouken said:

This really isn't a big problem for Move. Not too many games on the Wii that use both a Wii Remote and Nunchuck even offer 4 player multiplayer. Even among those games that do though there are games like Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl that have such a mode and give the option of using a Remote Nunchuck combo, but nobody would choose to play with that control scheme over a traditional controller or a sub-peripheral such as the Wii Wheel.

For Kinect on the other hand, it's a rather large blow that it seems to be limited to 2 players simultaniously. It's true this wasn't much a problem for the PS2 (multitap aside) but for a device that's specifically designed for casual games and labeled as the future of entertainment to only be on par with a last generation console doesn't bode too well for it.


Every single FPS game on Wii that supports local multiplayer has to have the nunchuck, like if I wanted to play the next CoD with move that means I need a navigation controller for everyone that wants to play, cause the forth person is gonna be SoL with a DS3...



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A203D said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

Thats an offical M$ video released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect.

Uhm, only one player is actually rated/scored in that Dance Central video, so that's one player mode.



MaxwellGT2000 said:
A203D said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, they're just standing there lol. Natal ignored the kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

That was released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect. the other one i was reffering to has been embedded. it was the one with the 2 adults and the 2 kids, the really awful one.




Not to be "that" guy but that part with "three" players only had the 1 player game footage just like the on stage demo of the game.  Plus those spots are like the original KB move commercial, where the "players" are playing some of the games with two move controllers and not a Navigation controller IE Socom.  It's doctored videos to show off the games rather than accurate depictions of people playing it.  

Also it's been noted by Microsoft themselves that you can't sit down and use Kinect at this time cause that's what the builds were designed to support.  Remember kids not every video released is accurate to the actual product (Killzone 2 target builds) you must know these videos are made to keep the image of said products high.

Not every company is like the ones of yore where they'd only release videos of current builds being played live in front of people.  This isn't to say everyone is lying to you, they do intend to try to deliver on the product shown, they're just wanting people to know what they hope to achieve.

Yeah, this is just another way of saying that Kinect dosent perform as advertised. which is fair enough, because according to you sony and nintendo fasely advertise their products as well...

i guess we could accept that, but this is like the 3rd time for M$. first Kinect was advertised as a sitting down and standing up device - no so. the star wars demo at E3 they showed was prerecorded, and Kinect dosent support more than 2 people, as it was advertised to do. okay its fair enough about all this stuff during production, but its not fair to the general mass consumer, who most likely wont be informed about these discrepancies.



Lafiel said:
A203D said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

Thats an offical M$ video released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect.

Uhm, only one player is actually rated/scored in that Dance Central video, so that's one player mode.

Fair enough, i didnt watch it closely enough to see the scoreboard, just like the mass consumer wont watch this more than once, if at all. it dosent make a difference if its 1 player mode, or even 2 player mode. its clearly being advertised as a 3 player game. theres no denying this, lol.

do you think M$ marketing department say, 'oh yeah, the scoreboard clearly shows only 1 person is playing, but we'll put 3 people in just to make it more obvious'.



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A203D said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
A203D said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, they're just standing there lol. Natal ignored the kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

That was released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect. the other one i was reffering to has been embedded. it was the one with the 2 adults and the 2 kids, the really awful one.




Not to be "that" guy but that part with "three" players only had the 1 player game footage just like the on stage demo of the game.  Plus those spots are like the original KB move commercial, where the "players" are playing some of the games with two move controllers and not a Navigation controller IE Socom.  It's doctored videos to show off the games rather than accurate depictions of people playing it.  

Also it's been noted by Microsoft themselves that you can't sit down and use Kinect at this time cause that's what the builds were designed to support.  Remember kids not every video released is accurate to the actual product (Killzone 2 target builds) you must know these videos are made to keep the image of said products high.

Not every company is like the ones of yore where they'd only release videos of current builds being played live in front of people.  This isn't to say everyone is lying to you, they do intend to try to deliver on the product shown, they're just wanting people to know what they hope to achieve.

Yeah, this is just another way of saying that Kinect dosent perform as advertised. which is fair enough, because according to you sony and nintendo fasely advertise their products as well...

i guess we could accept that, but this is like the 3rd time for M$. first Kinect was advertised as a sitting down and standing up device - no so. the star wars demo at E3 they showed was prerecorded, and Kinect dosent support more than 2 people, as it was advertised to do. okay its fair enough about all this stuff during production, but its not fair to the general mass consumer, who most likely wont be informed about these discrepancies.


Well to be honest they aren't likely to be the ones to see these videos, not at this time anyway, so there won't be a whole lot of need to inform them that these are target videos, but I do agree if the core consumer is so confused by target videos then of course someone outside of gaming would not know any info about the game.  But that's the freedom of marketing, hell some video games are shown off with only videos of their cutscenes if you didn't know any better you'd think the whole entire game was a cutscene.

It's really just marketing like that done for movies, TV, and music hit the video game industry and unlike those where what you see/hear is what you get video games is about the player playing the game so we expect game play footage and people actually playing the game but that isn't always going to happen.  The next Call of Duty could just be a real life guy running around in the jungle having explosions going off around him to some war anthem and that would be the marketing for the game and would likely be the first thing someone not in the know would see of the game, though it doesn't show one bit of game play lol it's all about marketing man.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:

Well to be honest they aren't likely to be the ones to see these videos, not at this time anyway, so there won't be a whole lot of need to inform them that these are target videos, but I do agree if the core consumer is so confused by target videos then of course someone outside of gaming would not know any info about the game.  But that's the freedom of marketing, hell some video games are shown off with only videos of their cutscenes if you didn't know any better you'd think the whole entire game was a cutscene.

It's really just marketing like that done for movies, TV, and music hit the video game industry and unlike those where what you see/hear is what you get video games is about the player playing the game so we expect game play footage and people actually playing the game but that isn't always going to happen.  The next Call of Duty could just be a real life guy running around in the jungle having explosions going off around him to some war anthem and that would be the marketing for the game and would likely be the first thing someone not in the know would see of the game, though it doesn't show one bit of game play lol it's all about marketing man.

Yeah fair enough, its not worth caring about anymore anyway, lol. we'll see how the end product turns out.



MaxwellGT2000 said:
A203D said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, they're just standing there lol. Natal ignored the kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ET6PqZtYd4

That was released just before E3 2010, and the 3rd video in clearly shows 3 people using Kinect. the other one i was reffering to has been embedded. it was the one with the 2 adults and the 2 kids, the really awful one.




Not to be "that" guy but that part with "three" players only had the 1 player game footage just like the on stage demo of the game.  Plus those spots are like the original KB move commercial, where the "players" are playing some of the games with two move controllers and not a Navigation controller IE Socom.  It's doctored videos to show off the games rather than accurate depictions of people playing it.  

Also it's been noted by Microsoft themselves that you can't sit down and use Kinect at this time cause that's what the builds were designed to support.  Remember kids not every video released is accurate to the actual product (Killzone 2 target builds) you must know these videos are made to keep the image of said products high.

Not every company is like the ones of yore where they'd only release videos of current builds being played live in front of people.  This isn't to say everyone is lying to you, they do intend to try to deliver on the product shown, they're just wanting people to know what they hope to achieve.

Honestly, a lot of what we've seen of Kinect reminds me of Sony's transition from E305 hype to E306 reality, especially if the $149 price is true.



wow guys. Despite those videos above being "acted out" none of them showed  more than 2 players.



1. It is marketed as a three player game and the average consumer won't know the limitation?! The average consumer won't be sold by the internet at all, they will be sold because they played it at someone's house. The limitations will be apparent.

2. As a Wii owner this is nowhere near as bad a problem as the arbitrary limitation of one Balance Board. It has still been pretty successful.



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