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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

I can't understand most of your first paragraph.

Their brands don't have that power either. Content does. Content content content content.

Your HD-DVD comment still doesn't make sense.

Tech does not push tech.

you think if BLU-RAY wasn't on PS3 then it would have beaten HD-DVD..........................lol

I claimed nothing of the sort; I don't know enough about the marketing battle between HD-DVD and Blu-ray to say either way, though I remember beefier studios being behind blu-ray and providing beefier content.



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aragod said:
Khuutra said:

You'r misrepresenting the argument, here.

Sony is oversooting the market with 3D in the PS3. There's only a few tens of thousands of people who can utilize it. It's analogous to the HD problem with the HD twins, only a couplpe of orders of magnitude worse.

Nintendo is waiting until a 30% adoption rate for 3D-capable displays before making a 3D-centric system. Timing and care in the console space is what separates Nintendo from Sony.

You've misunderstood my post, my point was that pretty much every Nintendo fan here was calling Sony pushing 3D as a silly decision and poor gimmick (which it may be, for all I care), but suddenly when Nintendo announced 3DS and is seriously considering 3D for the next generations, not it's "THE THING".

In other words, we have a nice bunch of hypocrites here without their own oppinion. Next time someone will try to tell me that Wii Party isn't the most embarrasing thing ever announced.

Oh no, I got you the first time. You're wrong, though, because that position isn't hypocrisy. A position itself can't inherently be hypocritical, only reasoning can be.

I hold that Sony's push for 3D on the PS3 (and PS4, if they do that) is stupid, but it's a good move by Nintendo on the 3DS.

3D on a console is an example of continuing to overshoot the market orders of magnitude greater than HD graphics was at the start of this gen, because 3D penetration is orders of magnitude lower. How many people own a 3D-capable TV and a PS3? Fifty thousand? Less? Much less? What is the projected penetration for 3DTVs by the time the next hardware cycle launches in a couple of years? Sony is providing a value incentive that few if any will be able to take advantage of due to prohibitive costs not associated with the system itself. They're tying the success of their 3D push into the adoption rate of 3DTVs before the technology has had time to mature or take hold.

Nintendo's 3D is inherent to the system itself, and requires no investment outside of the system. They are not overshooting the market unless the system itself is prohibitively expensive. More, they are undercutting Sony's initiative by providing a 3D experience for cheaper without the need for extra hardware, in a way that makes the use of 3D glasses look clunky before anyone's even had the attempt to get used to the latter experience. Nintendo's move is smart because it is self-contained, relies only on its ability to push its own hardware and software, and aggressively undermines Sony's effort.

That is why Sony's approach is dumb and Nintendo's is not.

For the record, 3D tech is awesome in general. It is not $4,000 of awesome.



We're quite a ways off from 3D hitting a 30% adoption rate, so does this mean their next system is several years away?



makingmusic476 said:

We're quite a ways off from 3D hitting a 30% adoption rate, so does this mean their next system is several years away?

Dollars to donuts it's somebody being too trigger-happy with adoption rate estimations. The Wii's successor will not be primarily 3D.



Khuutra said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

I can't understand most of your first paragraph.

Their brands don't have that power either. Content does. Content content content content.

Your HD-DVD comment still doesn't make sense.

Tech does not push tech.

you think if BLU-RAY wasn't on PS3 then it would have beaten HD-DVD..........................lol

I claimed nothing of the sort; I don't know enough about the marketing battle between HD-DVD and Blu-ray to say either way, though I remember beefier studios being behind blu-ray and providing beefier content.


STUDIOS ONLY WENT BEHIND blu-ray as it was in PS3 or HD-DVD with the cheap price would have won

 

the tech and brands have a big impact on the success



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

I claimed nothing of the sort; I don't know enough about the marketing battle between HD-DVD and Blu-ray to say either way, though I remember beefier studios being behind blu-ray and providing beefier content.

STUDIOS ONLY WENT BEHIND blu-ray as it was in PS3 or HD-DVD with the cheap price would have won

the tech and brands have a big impact on the success

That's a pretty good line, except I'm willing to bet you can't provide any proof of that reasoning whatsoever.



Khuutra said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

I claimed nothing of the sort; I don't know enough about the marketing battle between HD-DVD and Blu-ray to say either way, though I remember beefier studios being behind blu-ray and providing beefier content.

STUDIOS ONLY WENT BEHIND blu-ray as it was in PS3 or HD-DVD with the cheap price would have won

the tech and brands have a big impact on the success

That's a pretty good line, except I'm willing to bet you can't provide any proof of that reasoning whatsoever.

what proof do you want

 

there isn't proof for everything

 

we all were watching market trands and thats what happened



According to this: http://see3dtv.info/

Only 845,000 3DTVs will have been sold by the end of this year. Even with 200% growth YOY given the fact that only 800k 3DTVs will be sold this year there will be only be just over 10M 3DTVs sold by 2012.



Tease.

Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

I claimed nothing of the sort; I don't know enough about the marketing battle between HD-DVD and Blu-ray to say either way, though I remember beefier studios being behind blu-ray and providing beefier content.

STUDIOS ONLY WENT BEHIND blu-ray as it was in PS3 or HD-DVD with the cheap price would have won

the tech and brands have a big impact on the success

That's a pretty good line, except I'm willing to bet you can't provide any proof of that reasoning whatsoever.

what proof do you want

there isn't proof for everything

we all were watching market trands and thats what happened

Show me any articles you have that actually support your supposition. Otherwise you have no grounds on which to make that assumption, in which case you're probably better off not trying to use it as a talking point.



Squilliam said:

According to this: http://see3dtv.info/

Only 845,000 3DTVs will have been sold by the end of this year. Even with 200% growth YOY given the fact that only 800k 3DTVs will be sold this year there will be only be just over 10M 3DTVs sold by 2012.

Why Squilliam, you minx.

Are those numbers America only? Even if they are, 10M is.... not quite 30%, I do not think? Maybe more like 10%?