just searched they are at 61%

my previous statistics where from an old article

Reading this thread it makes me wonder sometimes if Brett has been playing a joke on everyone the whole time, like an April fools which never ends and the Wii sales are infact the PS3 sales and vice versa.

Uh, did you miss the part where the Wii was sold out for years? Nintendo could only sell as many Wiis as they produced.

As for Wii's sales being low now, it's because most of their killer apps were released earlier in its life (2006-2008), not to mention already selling 70 million units. Even with its "low" sales, it's still selling about 150% of what the $299 PS3 sells, and still keeping pace with the PS2 (its 4th year will remain higher).

Also, the PS3 had no killer apps when it launched. A $299 PS3 without games (which you seem to forget) would not have outsold the Wii launching with a game as strong as Wii Sports. What would mom and her kids do with the PS3, anyway, play Ridge Racer together? People buy the console for the games, not because it's popular.

I don't know why you're so intent on discrediting Nintendo's hand this gen. Even if the Wii had a worthy PS competitor, it would have still sold tons - comparing the Wii's potential to failures like Dreamcast, GC, XB is laughable. There's no comparison to make with these at all. The damn Wii balance board outsold these consoles.

Just face it - Nintendo made the winning console this gen. The Wii appeals to far more people than the Playstation 3 can ever hope for, regardless of its price. Moms, girls, children, and other new gamers can easily pick up a wii-mote and have fun with the Wii. The PS3 requires one to pick up an intimidating controller with tons of buttons, and the games themselves aren't exactly friendly to newcomers.

You also seem to be confused on why Apple is so successful. People don't buy the iPhone because they think it's the most powerful, they buy it because of its interface, style, reliability (brand name), the app store, and of course, word of mouth (from satisfied customers). Like Nintendo, they focus on the customer experience, so they won't go for the feature-rich angle, they'll cut out all the fat and focus on things people care more about that other companies neglect, like style, ease of use, or even fun.

OMG. Wii is doomed!

Looking at this thread....

I realize that it is useless to argue with those who...don't...really know...what the heck they are talking about.

WII wasn't sold out the first year so much but in 2007 when everybody got to know about the 'COOL' thing.and every big console gets soldout,PS2 was sold out after 4 weeks of its launch first year so don't give that excuse.

and don't compare PS2 vs Wii sales,lets see how many sales will Wii have in the next few years then we will compare.

PS3 had no killer app as SONY knew launching it wouldn't be profitable as not many consumers even with the big games wouldn't come with the high price and that more sales will just make them more losswhy do you think they saved GT5 as to make sales when PS3 is making profit and bring some mommentum when PS3 is releasing its big games.

"People buy the console for the games, not because it's popular." - what part don't you understand.you are the person who says just because i buy consoles for games,that means everybody else does too".yes the people buy it for games,but that is not their sole motivation,popularity,their friends having it,it being the 'COOL' thing,etc

why do you think Modern Warfare 2 sold over everybody's prediction cause Activision hyped it,it was the 'COOL' thing people wanted to showoff that they had.

I am not saying that Wii is a bad console of Nintendo isn't a good company but the brand power and momentum means alot.

you just keep saying the same thing over and over again,just because Wii  sold out and balance board sold out,it would have beaten PS3 and would be the same but you just don't understand if PS3 was lower price,it would have bnever let the Wii be so popular and so its sales wouldn't have launched well and Wii would have been overshadowed

"Just face it - Nintendo made the winning console this gen"...............................lmao

just a good console doesn't mean anything,brand power and momentum means alot more to that.Moms, girls, children that you taqlk off don't follow gaming so if Wii wasn't the "IT" thing then they wouldn't have known much about it.

"Even with its "low" sales, it's still selling about 150% of what the $299 PS3 sells," -thats what i'm trying to tell you from so long.now that Wii is popular and brand Wii is the biggest so its hard for PS3 to get sales.but that wouldn't have happened if PS3 wouldn't have launched at $299 as it would have continued the momentum and then Wii would have had hard climb.

"You also seem to be confused on why Apple is so successful. People don't buy the iPhone because they think it's the most powerful, they buy it because of its interface, style, reliability (brand name), the app store, and of course, word of mouth (from satisfied customers)" 

i never said people buy it because its the most powerful or anything like that cause its not.you urself said it the brand name.

also do you really think the iPHONE would have been popular if it was launched by NOKIA in the United statesa all the things regarding th iPHONE remaining the same.No it wouldn't have as APPLE is a 'COOL' company right now

and iPHONE was far from the best User Interface but it still sold loads as brand momentum of iPOD gave it a good launch

word of mouth has less to do when a big company launches a thing.

Okay, so basically your problem is, you seem to believe to become the "IT" thing, you need an amazing launch. That's easy to disprove.

See the DS. The console did not really take off until the killer apps (Nintendogs, Brain Age, NSMB, MK) came out for it, and more presentable hardware was released (DS lite). The PSP was matching it in hardware sales, but from that point on it was no contest. The DS' sales literally skyrocketed.

Modern Warfare 2 was the "IT" thing because Modern Warfare 1 was so damn good. Everyone who played the first game convinced their friends to buy it, which is why the launch was so strong. Again, word of mouth. Just look at how strong Modern Warfare 1's legs were.

Take a game like Just Dance. Virtually nobody knew about it or how successful it might be when it launched, but once it got in the people's hands, the sales just took off. That is the power of word of mouth, something you are seriously underestimating. Yes, a big launch will amplify this power (due to it being in more hands), but it's not entirely necessary.

Speaking of Just Dance, the game also helps disprove your brand name theory. Ubisoft didn't need Nintendo's name on the box to achieve Nintendo-like sales, they only needed to follow the same strategy. Although it started slower than it would if Nintendo pushed it (because Nintendo deservedly has a huge following), it still ends up selling tons. If Nokia came out with the iPhone, complete with the advertisements, app store, fun interface and all, no doubt it'd have sold fantastically, even if the launch wasn't great. Word of mouth would have done its work.

Wii Music is a great example of what happens when a hyped product that isn't desired is released. It's frontloaded due to hype from a top-notch brand (Nintendo), but once most people realize it isn't what they want, sales drop off. The so called "casuals" aren't mindless idiots, they know what they like and have fun with, and the sales will always reflect this.

Basically, even if PS3 ended up being popular, that wouldn't stop people from loving the Wii. Nintendo had a great advertising campaign right to the people that needed to see it. Besides, did you somehow forget how PSP launched right next to the DS? Both consoles did just fine. The "console wars" aren't a zero-sum game.

Lastly, for the Wii sellouts... don't even bother, this isn't arguable. The Wii was sold out pretty much everywhere during its first year.

November 06: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article643166.ece
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,230561,00.html
December 06: http://news.spong.com/article/11274/Biggest-Console-Launch-Ever-One-Million-Wiis-Sold
January 07: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/31/technology/31game.html
etc. etc.
Record breaking launch sales: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_launch#Sales

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad product. It may be a bad product for you, but for many other people that same product may be a perfect fit for them. It doesn't make them stupid or a follower because they like something you don't. It does however make you seem like a snob and know it all.

Revisionist history is stupid. Sony could not have launched PS3 anywhere near $300 and still provided anywhere near the same system. They lost $200/console at $599. They gambled and lost. Simple.

PS4 will not not have some magical advantage due to Bluray being cheaper. Component costs come down for everyone equally. Micrsoft and Nintendo are able to use the same parts that Sony uses when they build their next gen systems.

Also, Sony has never, not once, used the same media format over again. I would say that it's far from a guartanee that they will start now.

make me seem like a snob..........lol

i like Wii and many of its hardcore games,Old nintendo franchises but not the new

its just that you all are saying that a console brand which had such momentum would have been just outsold jst like that