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yo_john117 on 03 June 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Dallinor said:
Sweep said:

Furthermore, Sony would never took the risk to anounce themselves a title as an exclusive during their own conference last year if there wasn't a true deal going on


I believe they announced FF XIV as exclusive last year, and that may well come to the 360.

It wouldn't surprise me if Agent came to the 360, simply for the fact that Rockstar have left nothing exclusive to the HD consoles this gen. Due to the complicated nature of the agreement Sony may have more rights to the game then a simple timed exclusive agreement so it could end up like another MGS4 scenario. But I'm inclined to believe it will come to the 360.

He worded that VERY carefully

"PS3 will be the ONLY console that will be able to play FF14 in 2010"

Implying timed exclusivity & by saying console he didn't have to take PC's name anywhere

So basically FF14 will come out in December for the PS3 and January for the 360?



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pinkyxyz on 04 June 2010
selnor said:
pinkyxyz said:

This gen has turned changed from "ps3 has no games" to "which ps3 exclusive can we get next". If you really have to ask a question like that, then you should already know which console you need to get.

This my friend is not the case and you know it. It's in a latest 360 mag. So I asked who thinks it's true? No harm done.

And you know that loads of PS3 fans want 360 exclusives to in forums. So dont act like that. There was no need. Your final warningI

I dont think I said anything wrong, i just stated an opinion about things have changed over the last couple of years concerning the ps3 and its library of games. And you can keep your "Warning" because i didn't mean any ill wll in my comment .

 

But after reading my earlier comment it does seem kind of fanboyish so i will give you that



XxXProphecyXxX on 04 June 2010
Lyrikalstylez said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?


If those games would come out for ps3... than Heavy Rain, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance would some day come out on 360 too since there not made by a first party developer also right??

 

Anyways.....As I said before 3rd party games are becoming extinct and this game will most likely be multi also


Heavy rain can if Quantic dreams wants it to but Resistance and Ratchet? you clearly dont know much about gaming do you? since pretty much every1 know Resistance and Ratchet is owned by SONY......you want Insomniac to get sued?

Gears, Mass effect and all valve games on the other hand is OWNED by their respective companies(Epic,EA,Valve) MS don't own those games you want proof here it is...

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/11/ea-owns-mass-effect-so-what-now/

EA owns Mass Effect ... so, what now?

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/rein-we-own-the-gears-of-war-ip-not-microsoft-3119/

Rein: “We own the Gears of War IP, not Microsoft”

 



almcchesney on 04 June 2010

wait so the gameinformer that was out like 3-4 months ago didnt give it away that LA noir wasnt exclusive



XxXProphecyXxX on 04 June 2010
LordMatrix said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?

Problem with your logics here is that all those games you mentioned are published by Microsoft so they never will go to PS3 as long as publishing rights are held so dont hold your breath on any of those. We are talking about 3rd party exclusives too and Gears of War and Mass Effect are 2nd party games. We are talking about Games like Tales of Vesperia,  Magna Carta 2, Splinter Cell:Conviction, Metro 2033 etc.....


Nope, The other guy tried the same argument your giving me and failed why? because I asked him to explain me this...

Ninja gaiden 2 published by Microsoft yet there's a PS3 version out.

Maybe you would like to try and explain this to me? since the other dude couldn't?..... well?



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almcchesney on 04 June 2010
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?


If those games would come out for ps3... than Heavy Rain, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance would some day come out on 360 too since there not made by a first party developer also right??

 

Anyways.....As I said before 3rd party games are becoming extinct and this game will most likely be multi also


Heavy rain can if Quantic dreams wants it to but Resistance and Ratchet? you clearly dont know much about gaming do you? since pretty much every1 know Resistance and Ratchet is owned by SONY......you want Insomniac to get sued?

Gears, Mass effect and all valve games on the other hand is OWNED by their respective companies(Epic,EA,Valve) MS don't own those games you want proof here it is...

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/11/ea-owns-mass-effect-so-what-now/

EA owns Mass Effect ... so, what now?

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/rein-we-own-the-gears-of-war-ip-not-microsoft-3119/

Rein: “We own the Gears of War IP, not Microsoft”

 

u tell em prophecy, i actually would like gears to be lead developed on ps3, epic is making bulletstorm multiplat so gears 3 could just as well be, and right before it comes out watch gears of war collection come out, lol, both gears games on 1 bluray.



DirtyP2002 on 04 June 2010
XxXProphecyXxX said:
LordMatrix said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?

Problem with your logics here is that all those games you mentioned are published by Microsoft so they never will go to PS3 as long as publishing rights are held so dont hold your breath on any of those. We are talking about 3rd party exclusives too and Gears of War and Mass Effect are 2nd party games. We are talking about Games like Tales of Vesperia,  Magna Carta 2, Splinter Cell:Conviction, Metro 2033 etc.....


Nope, The other guy tried the same argument your giving me and failed why? because I asked him to explain me this...

Ninja gaiden 2 published by Microsoft yet there's a PS3 version out.

Maybe you would like to try and explain this to me? since the other dude couldn't?..... well?


Actually there is a Sigma version out. And this is the only time this happened in this industry. Ninja Gaiden still is a 360 exclusive and Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a PS3 exclusive. MS has or had the publishing rights for Ninja Gaiden, but they did not own the IP (chracters etc) so this game made its way to the PS3.

Again, the only time this happened in this idustry. If you expect MS published games on PS3, you set yoursef up for a disappointment. Gears or Alan Wake won't be released on PS3, just like Heavy Rain won't be released on 360.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

XxXProphecyXxX on 04 June 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
LordMatrix said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?

Problem with your logics here is that all those games you mentioned are published by Microsoft so they never will go to PS3 as long as publishing rights are held so dont hold your breath on any of those. We are talking about 3rd party exclusives too and Gears of War and Mass Effect are 2nd party games. We are talking about Games like Tales of Vesperia,  Magna Carta 2, Splinter Cell:Conviction, Metro 2033 etc.....


Nope, The other guy tried the same argument your giving me and failed why? because I asked him to explain me this...

Ninja gaiden 2 published by Microsoft yet there's a PS3 version out.

Maybe you would like to try and explain this to me? since the other dude couldn't?..... well?


Actually there is a Sigma version out. And this is the only time this happened in this industry. Ninja Gaiden still is a 360 exclusive and Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a PS3 exclusive. MS has or had the publishing rights for Ninja Gaiden, but they did not own the IP (chracters etc) so this game made its way to the PS3.

Again, the only time this happened in this idustry. If you expect MS published games on PS3, you set yoursef up for a disappointment. Gears or Alan Wake won't be released on PS3, just like Heavy Rain won't be released on 360.


Thats what I said to the guy who expects Resistance and Ratchet to go multi he's gonna be disappointed because its owned by Sony.

Now for ME, Gears and Wake they could practially do a sigma or w/e they call it for ps3 because its not owned by MS, same for Heavy rain.

For ME2, Valve games etc, I dont see whats stoping it  from becoming multiplat, these games are owned and published by 3rd party....

only reason I can think of is...

*Exclusive contract for ME series to be exclusive for a while(Bioshock,GTA DLC,Tales of Vesperia,SO4)
*Valve doesn't like working with PS3.

other than this reasons I dont see why it wont end up on PS3.



selnor on 04 June 2010
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
DirtyP2002 said:

People acting like PS3 "exclusives" never made their way on the Xbox 360...

Hi @ Tekken
Hi @ Final Fantasy XIII
Hi @ Assassin's Creed
Hi @ GTA IV
Hi @ Devil May Cry IV
Hi @ LA Noire

Look at the sales of Rockstar / Take Two games on 360... 800k for RDR in one week, outselling the PS3 version by more than 50%. GTA IV on 360 outselling the PS3 version by a decent margin as well.

3rd party exclusives doesn't make sense for any publisher with a userbase of 40 million on the rival platform. (excluding the Wii, it couldn't handle this game anyway)

Ohhh ok so you agree that Gears of war, Mass effect and All 3rd party 360 exclusives games should be on PS3 too right? they can't ignore 35m install base right?


If those games would come out for ps3... than Heavy Rain, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance would some day come out on 360 too since there not made by a first party developer also right??

 

Anyways.....As I said before 3rd party games are becoming extinct and this game will most likely be multi also


Heavy rain can if Quantic dreams wants it to but Resistance and Ratchet? you clearly dont know much about gaming do you? since pretty much every1 know Resistance and Ratchet is owned by SONY......you want Insomniac to get sued?

Gears, Mass effect and all valve games on the other hand is OWNED by their respective companies(Epic,EA,Valve) MS don't own those games you want proof here it is...

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/11/ea-owns-mass-effect-so-what-now/

EA owns Mass Effect ... so, what now?

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/rein-we-own-the-gears-of-war-ip-not-microsoft-3119/

Rein: “We own the Gears of War IP, not Microsoft”

 

Your right. 

But M$ own the publishing rights to ME1, Gears 1&2 and by the looks of things Gears 3 to. Since ~M$ are the ones publishing the screenshots.

It's this that stops Gears 1&2 being ported. As well as ME1. Unless M$ sold the rights to EA for that game in return for ME2 and 3 exclusive for a year or 2?

M$ were smart. They didnt need to own the IP's. They ensured they owned the publishing rights. How long they keep them is anyones guess.



Rainbird on 04 June 2010

Wasn't this confirmed multiplat ages ago?

Or is that just me?

Anyway, I have no idea if Agent will go to the 360, I have no idea what contracts are floating around at Rockstar and Sony for exclusivity.