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Super Mario Galaxy 2 != system seller

Wii Party = system seller



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LeandroBaffa said:
leo-j said:

How did wii die in japan? It sold about the same as the ps3..



I know, but, the ps3 no have games system sellers like wii have mario galaxy 2, and sell more...mario galaxy is the major lauch game this year for wii, vgchartz preview japan say something like 35k, and sold only 20 k, ps3 sold more without game

Maybe because no one is buying a Wii for Galaxy 2. Maybe all the buyers are current Wii owners and may be owners of Galaxy 1.



I knew the preview was going to be way off. I said I was going to be surprised if Wii even managed 25k. Anyways, Wii is not the dominant console anymore in Japan. PS3 has played catch up and managed it, now let's see what can Nintendo do to spur interest in the Wii again so it becomes dominant once more, because 3rd parties have already given up.



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leo-j said:

I think the reason why PS3 sold more is because of Torne, and the price. I feel that the MOVE will turn things in Sony's favor in japan.. but I don't expect nintendo to just let that happen..

 

japan will become more interesting come this fall

Maybe if Sony launches it with Hot Shots Golf 6 and Hot Shots Tennis 2 and adds a Play Create Share thing to it, that could be big there I think.

 

As far as JP Wii goes, I expect an original game like Xenoblade to be more of a system seller than a sequel like SMG2.



Nice! Did very well for 3D Mario in Japan.



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trestres said:

I knew the preview was going to be way off. I said I was going to be surprised if Wii even managed 25k. Anyways, Wii is not the dominant console anymore in Japan. PS3 has played catch up and managed it, now let's see what can Nintendo do to spur interest in the Wii again so it becomes dominant once more, because 3rd parties have already given up.

They call it Wii Relax. Japan has a very fast pace of life, so there may be an untapped demand of relaxation devices.

Of course, "dominating consoles," in Japan, otherwise, means nothing. The country has moved on to handhelds.



trestres said:

I knew the preview was going to be way off. I said I was going to be surprised if Wii even managed 25k. Anyways, Wii is not the dominant console anymore in Japan. PS3 has played catch up and managed it, now let's see what can Nintendo do to spur interest in the Wii again so it becomes dominant once more, because 3rd parties have already given up.


Given up implies that they actually tried in the first place. They didn't. They just stopped mailing it in.



Darc Requiem said:
trestres said:

I knew the preview was going to be way off. I said I was going to be surprised if Wii even managed 25k. Anyways, Wii is not the dominant console anymore in Japan. PS3 has played catch up and managed it, now let's see what can Nintendo do to spur interest in the Wii again so it becomes dominant once more, because 3rd parties have already given up.


Given up implies that they actually tried in the first place. They didn't. They just stopped mailing it in.

Good point, but Wii had a bit more support back then, now it's a desert.

@Smaschu: Wii was dominating totally until late 2008, then it went downhill up to a level where PS3 is selling on par. Don't give me the "Japan is handheld" that's not true at all. What's true is that developers aren't making console games anymore, but otherwise Wii wouldn't have sold what it sold during it's first years in the market, nor would the PS3 had resurged the way it did. Plus, if consoles are dead, judging by the weekly sales, handhelds are on deep coma, right?



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This is why I was growing concerned for the Wii in Japan, because I didn't expect Galaxy 2 to move any Wiis there, and sure enough, it didn't. The game might move consoles a bit in the West, but not in Japan, where 2D Mario vastly outpaces 3D Mario in terms of popularity.

The remedy for Wii's stagnation in Japan is Wii Party, and on a larger scale, Wii Relax. Those are the types of games that move systems there, games that try new things and draw in new crowds. Nintendo needs to keep releasing more games like Wii Fit in Japan that push the boundaries of the very definition of a game, in addition to more motion plus games that show Nintendo put some work into them.

Of course, there will be some other games, like the Dragon Quest games, Monster Hunters, and established Nintendo franchises like Pikmin, Star Fox, Kirby, etc, that may move a few units there as well. But to TRULY keep the momentum, Nintendo needs to keep creating not only new games, but entirely new GENRES, in order to maintain the Japanese crowd's interest in console games. 



Metallicube said:

This is why I was growing concerned for the Wii in Japan, because I didn't expect Galaxy 2 to move any Wiis there, and sure enough, it didn't. The game might move consoles a bit in the West, but not in Japan, where 2D Mario vastly outpaces 3D Mario in terms of popularity.

The remedy for Wii's stagnation in Japan is Wii Party, and on a larger scale, Wii Relax. Those are the types of games that move systems there, games that try new things and draw in new crowds. Nintendo needs to keep releasing more games like Wii Fit in Japan that push the boundaries of the very definition of a game, in addition to more motion plus games that show Nintendo put some work into them.

Of course, there will be some other games, like the Dragon Quest games, Monster Hunters, and established Nintendo franchises like Pikmin, Star Fox, Kirby, etc, that may move a few units there as well. But to TRULY keep the momentum, Nintendo needs to keep creating not only new games, but entirely new GENRES.

Nintendo can only do so much on their own. Without the help of third parties that will be impossible, because they will have to go through long droughts and momentum is then lost and people just moves on to the consoles where the games are, like it happened after 2008.



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