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shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

And this, of course, is the fault of Israel's pursuit of the slowest ethnic cleanising in world history.

Pffffffffft!

Edit: In case you truly aren't aware, a growth rate of 2.25% is pretty high. Especially for a place to which no one in their right mind would want to immigrate.



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badgenome said:
shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

And this, of course, is the fault of Israel's pursuit of the slowest ethnic cleanising in world history.

Pffffffffft!

they don't to "clean" them when they're already in a prison. The IDF will just kill them when it's time to flex the muscles up a bit and how off to the other arab nations.



shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Gaza%20Strip&countryCode=gz&regionCode=me&rank=6#gz

 

Do you even use facts at all in your arguments?

Gaza is 6th in the world for population growth rate.



Fail argument is fail.



5 of the six ships surrendered relatively peacefully and no one on the ships suffered any fatalities. one of the ships violently attacks the israelis after they legally boarded and suffered the consequences. there are videos showing the brutal attacks on the israelis.

it would appear that only one boat contained the previously mentioned terror activists.  im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings by insinuating the entire fleet were terror activists.

eventhough attempting to break the legal blockade was a pretty stupid idea in the first place...especially after the isreals said they would deliver all possible humanitarian aid over land. so while most probably wanted a confrontation like this...only a small group wanted a violent one.



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totalwar23 said:
shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Gaza%20Strip&countryCode=gz&regionCode=me&rank=6#gz

 

Do you even use facts at all in your arguments?

Gaza is 6th in the world for population growth rate.

Also, life expectancy in Gaza = 73.68

Not bad at all since life expectancy in US = 78.24

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html



Because the boarding was illegal the responsibility for the deaths fall to the Israeli government. Whether you yourself walk into a shop and rob it, but the store owner tries to stupidly defend his shop and you kill him or if you are a government and you send troops to perform an illegal action then the responsibility either way falls upon the person who instigated the illegal act no matter what the response by the victim of the act.

No country has the right to deny food, water, medical supplies etc to any civilian population. Any country which does so deserves to be scorned.



Tease.

totalwar23 said:
shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Gaza%20Strip&countryCode=gz&regionCode=me&rank=6#gz

 

Do you even use facts at all in your arguments?

Gaza is 6th in the world for population growth rate.

I doubt they'll ever be happy in their prison though.

 

MrBubbles said:

5 of the six ships surrendered relatively peacefully and no one on the ships suffered any fatalities. one of the ships violently attacks the israelis after they legally boarded and suffered the consequences. there are videos showing the brutal attacks on the israelis.

it would appear that only one boat contained the previously mentioned terror activists.  im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings by insinuating the entire fleet were terror activists.

eventhough attempting to break the legal blockade was a pretty stupid idea in the first place...especially after the isreals said they would deliver all possible humanitarian aid over land. so while most probably wanted a confrontation like this...only a small group wanted a violent one.

The blockade ISN'T LEGAL!!! The inhumane blockade has been decried so many times. They want to make palestinians starve.



shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

Do you even read what others write?  I bolded the part that badgenome said that I think you should re-read then read what you said again..

 

Unless I am misunderstanding his post it sounds like other countries with a similar birthrate have approximatly the same % of people at various ages... Badge, can you clarify?



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shio said:
totalwar23 said:
shio said:
badgenome said:
shio said:

I was wrong that the population of Gaza Strip declining, however it is still much worse than ever. 45% of the population in Gaza Strip are kids of 14 years or younger!! Their parents are killed by the israeli government or die due to the extremely harsh conditions of hunger, no medical help, etc...

Er... no. It's basic demographics. They have such a young population because they have a very high birthrate. The Palestinian Territories are ranked 31st in the world by fertility, and their age structure is very similar to other countries with a similar birthrate.

Exactly, their population is increasing at an extremely slow pace, even though they have a high fertility rate. They aren't able to live much long, or are forced to leave and live as refugees in foreign lands.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Gaza%20Strip&countryCode=gz&regionCode=me&rank=6#gz

 

Do you even use facts at all in your arguments?

Gaza is 6th in the world for population growth rate.

I doubt they'll ever be happy in their prison though.

 

 

So your argument is that the Israelis are committing genocide against the Palestinians because they're making them unhappy? Seriously, what the hell is with all the over-the-top rhetorics?