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Xxain on 30 May 2010
Carl2291 said:
SaviorX said:
Xxain said:
Gilgamesh said:

Why do they have to make it like FFXIII?, I'd be happy with HD graphics yet a similar battle system as FFVII.

All I want in a FFVII remake is everything to be the EXACT same as FFVII except graphics like it should be. The only thing wrong with VII was the graphics were bad. The story awesome, the gameplay fun and addictive, the characters very likable and you often feel for them, epic boss fights, and very good final boss, so everything in FFVII was perfect except for the obvious graphics.

Simple...your talking about SE's most popular and most successful title to date. If they remake FF7 it has to meet or surpass the technology bar set by Xlll and VS it would be a crime if they didnt. FF7 remake would not be Xxcepted in the general if it look anything worse. Thats problem when your a company that continues to raise bar ppl start to Xxpect no less from you especially when your dealing with a game FF7

I honestly don't think anyone truly cares if it exceed's FF13's graphics. The fact that it is being remade would make people accept 2007  PS3 graphics. Plus, SE's bar is low right now; the quality of their titles is erratic. All they need to do with FF7 is upgrade the graphics, THAT's IT.

No new gameplay features; there was nothing wrong with FF7's except the dialogue translation and obviously outdated graphics. NOTHING BESIDES GRAPHICS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED!!!

*phew*

Don't forget voiceovers for the cast, and new updated version of the soundtrack!


Thats a given..they would have to date all todays games have VA's...they have no choice but to redue OST either.

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Carl on 30 May 2010
Xxain said:
Carl2291 said:
SaviorX said:
Xxain said:
Gilgamesh said:

Why do they have to make it like FFXIII?, I'd be happy with HD graphics yet a similar battle system as FFVII.

All I want in a FFVII remake is everything to be the EXACT same as FFVII except graphics like it should be. The only thing wrong with VII was the graphics were bad. The story awesome, the gameplay fun and addictive, the characters very likable and you often feel for them, epic boss fights, and very good final boss, so everything in FFVII was perfect except for the obvious graphics.

Simple...your talking about SE's most popular and most successful title to date. If they remake FF7 it has to meet or surpass the technology bar set by Xlll and VS it would be a crime if they didnt. FF7 remake would not be Xxcepted in the general if it look anything worse. Thats problem when your a company that continues to raise bar ppl start to Xxpect no less from you especially when your dealing with a game FF7

I honestly don't think anyone truly cares if it exceed's FF13's graphics. The fact that it is being remade would make people accept 2007  PS3 graphics. Plus, SE's bar is low right now; the quality of their titles is erratic. All they need to do with FF7 is upgrade the graphics, THAT's IT.

No new gameplay features; there was nothing wrong with FF7's except the dialogue translation and obviously outdated graphics. NOTHING BESIDES GRAPHICS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED!!!

*phew*

Don't forget voiceovers for the cast, and new updated version of the soundtrack!


Thats a given..they would have to date all todays games have VA's...they have no choice but to redue OST either.

The voice actors/actresses from Advent Children should be used. Would be awesome.

I'm getting excited again just thinking about the posibilities!



                            

Xxain on 30 May 2010
Carl2291 said:
Xxain said:
Carl2291 said:
SaviorX said:
Xxain said:
Gilgamesh said:

Why do they have to make it like FFXIII?, I'd be happy with HD graphics yet a similar battle system as FFVII.

All I want in a FFVII remake is everything to be the EXACT same as FFVII except graphics like it should be. The only thing wrong with VII was the graphics were bad. The story awesome, the gameplay fun and addictive, the characters very likable and you often feel for them, epic boss fights, and very good final boss, so everything in FFVII was perfect except for the obvious graphics.

Simple...your talking about SE's most popular and most successful title to date. If they remake FF7 it has to meet or surpass the technology bar set by Xlll and VS it would be a crime if they didnt. FF7 remake would not be Xxcepted in the general if it look anything worse. Thats problem when your a company that continues to raise bar ppl start to Xxpect no less from you especially when your dealing with a game FF7

I honestly don't think anyone truly cares if it exceed's FF13's graphics. The fact that it is being remade would make people accept 2007  PS3 graphics. Plus, SE's bar is low right now; the quality of their titles is erratic. All they need to do with FF7 is upgrade the graphics, THAT's IT.

No new gameplay features; there was nothing wrong with FF7's except the dialogue translation and obviously outdated graphics. NOTHING BESIDES GRAPHICS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED!!!

*phew*

Don't forget voiceovers for the cast, and new updated version of the soundtrack!


Thats a given..they would have to date all todays games have VA's...they have no choice but to redue OST either.

The voice actors/actresses from Advent Children should be used. Would be awesome.

I'm getting excited again just thinking about the posibilities!


Of course the VA's for Advent children are the "official voices". KH2 had advent children voices, Crisis core, and dirge of cerberus and Dissia. Im sure they would be the voices,

Wyrdness on 30 May 2010

I agree some what with Xxain here, if they're going to remake it it'll need more then just a graphical touch up as that is just asking for disappointment for a large number of people. I'd rather they just leave FFVII as a classic then go that route, FFIII and FFVI were brought up to standards of rpgs that came long after them when remade so FFVII should do the same, FFVII was good for it's time but simply doing a graphical touch up won't cut it especially after playing many rpgs in the decades after. Purists may disagree but who cares SE probably knows that if they don't do anything a long the lines of what Xxain is suggesting it'll be a disappointment with new gamers picking it up and asking what's the fuss about.



Loud_Hot_White_Box on 30 May 2010

Do they not realize that it's ok for the remake to retain the top-down, non-rotating camera view for the overworld/town maps? 

It does NOT have to be to FF XIII specs. 

Were any other remakes made to stand up against the current FF that had just been released?  No. 

Just make it so the characters aren't all boxy in world and town maps...the backgrounds were already pretty lush and beautiful, but they could improve those to HD standards as well.  Fight scenes could be brought to the level of XIII graphics without a problem -- and yes we'd still be flashing to a fight scene from an overworld map, so it's not like the graphics have to be integrated through the whole game like with XIII.  Finally, revamp the cutscenes somewhat (they were already beautiful, just up the res) and give us some new content.

This wouldn't take 3 years.



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rutea7 on 30 May 2010
A203D said:
Silver-Tiger said:
SaviorX said:
I cannot honestly believe that. Look, if they aren't capable of making it in HD, put it on the Wii or the 3DS. Hell, if Sony is willing to spend $100 million advertising i again, put it on the PSP2.

And another thing, the reason people clamor for FF7 so much and neglect asking for new experiences is because
A) It was arguably Square's best 3D game (it did sell 10 million; heavenly feedback from gamers)
B) Square hasn't made such a great game in almost a decade.

Now I know people are going to argue with me over that, but Square has not put out a great new IP or classic title all this generation. As time passes, they seem to be getting worse and more mismanaged. If they cannot make a game that works, they should create one based of the one that worked best.

Exactly. The last good game I remember was FF9. Since Squaresoft merged with Enix nothing good came out of it. all their recent games seem so... bland and unoriginal. Why don't they just concentrate on gameplay instead of overblown CGI? I'd rather have a decent RPG on the Wii than a CGI movie on a PS3.

Hmmm, the problem behind that logic is that the Dragon Quest series seems to have improved since the merger and DQ dosent focus on CGI and photo-realistic movie like cutscenes. it does however focus on gameplay and DQ9 has recieved rave reviews from what i've heard.

i dont think the problem is Enix, i think its the Sqaure management. and thats the reason the series has degraded. the whole CGI stuff is Squares fault, and thats because of the Kitase & Nomura control over the series. by the way Sqaure Enix are releasing DQ10 exclusively for Nintendo Wii, so theres your orignal, gameplay driven, non CGI RPG.

dragon quest series are published by square enix, they dont develop them



BMaker11 on 30 May 2010

Also, 30 years to develop? Yea, just like FFXIII is PS3 exclusive, as stated by SE.

....oh wait



Frieza on 30 May 2010

It was just a figure of speech obviously, people actually think he seriously means 30 years.

God, is it that hard to think.



BMaker11 on 30 May 2010

It didn't take 30 years to make that tech demo.....I bet it took 30 seconds lol



jneul on 31 May 2010
Xxain said:
RageBot said:
Zkuq said:
So you'd all rather have a FFVII remake rather than something new and potentially great? And if you got the remake, you'd just whine about how they've changed what maked the original great?

Well, on one hand I can have a game I love, with upgrades to gameplay, content, not to mention graphics and an enhanced soundtrack, that will rock my world with a shot of Nostalgia straight to the veins.

On the other hand there's at best another FF13, at worst another NieR.

And Square are the lords of bullshit, it shouldn't take that much to model all of these things in 3D, because we don't need them to, why can't they model some of the areas in 3D, and then make the same, non-moving viewpoint, just like in FF7?

I keep answering this question. They cannot. how many AAA HD console games have 2D rendered backdrops? None. With new technology comes new requirements what flew in PS1 days will NOT fly in PS3 days especially with games like Uncharted GOW FFXlll and VS raising that bar. A HD game that looks like a PS1 game would be a laughing stalk.. a FF7 remake woold be complete fail if they tooi the PS1 version and just updated graphics.. maybe on PSP but PS3

They could however settle for doing it in the style of lost odyssey, this would not take as long as say as doing it in the style of FF XIII:):)



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