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Intel or AMD?

Intel 74 43.79%
 
AMD 95 56.21%
 
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Squilliam said:
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:
AMD all the way. If you buy a current Intel CPU you cannot upgrade it without replacing the motherboard because they change sockets like you change underwear.

I only change my machine every 4 years or more, prolly a non issue lol, usually just video card upgrades these days.

I recently replaced an Athlon X2 64 with a Phenom 2 which was a full two generations ahead and it worked with a simple bios flash which turned my laggin HTPC into a fire breathing console eating beast. That was about 4 years and it saved me about $250 in mobo, ram.

Which CPU could I put in my MOBO:

Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3,AMD 770, DDR2, ATX ,Socket-AM2+,



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Slimebeast said:
Squilliam said:
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:
AMD all the way. If you buy a current Intel CPU you cannot upgrade it without replacing the motherboard because they change sockets like you change underwear.

I only change my machine every 4 years or more, prolly a non issue lol, usually just video card upgrades these days.

I recently replaced an Athlon X2 64 with a Phenom 2 which was a full two generations ahead and it worked with a simple bios flash which turned my laggin HTPC into a fire breathing console eating beast. That was about 4 years and it saved me about $250 in mobo, ram.

Which CPU could I put in my MOBO:

Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3,AMD 770, DDR2, ATX ,Socket-AM2+,

Check which revision board you have: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_List.aspx?FAQID=2234

Then if its Rev 1: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2722

Or Rev 2: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2874

Essentially if it has Fx or FXX by the processor its supported after a certain revision. If it says N/A then its no supported. This is the far right hand side where you're looking.



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CGI-Quality said:
Winters said:
AMD-Quality

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Squilliam said:
Slimebeast said:
Squilliam said:
dahuman said:
Squilliam said:
AMD all the way. If you buy a current Intel CPU you cannot upgrade it without replacing the motherboard because they change sockets like you change underwear.

I only change my machine every 4 years or more, prolly a non issue lol, usually just video card upgrades these days.

I recently replaced an Athlon X2 64 with a Phenom 2 which was a full two generations ahead and it worked with a simple bios flash which turned my laggin HTPC into a fire breathing console eating beast. That was about 4 years and it saved me about $250 in mobo, ram.

Which CPU could I put in my MOBO:

Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3,AMD 770, DDR2, ATX ,Socket-AM2+,

Check which revision board you have: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_List.aspx?FAQID=2234

Then if its Rev 1: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2722

Or Rev 2: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2874

Essentially if it has Fx or FXX by the processor its supported after a certain revision. If it says N/A then its no supported. This is the far right hand side where you're looking.

This is complicated. I found out i have Rev 2.

It says:

 CPU Support List
Fx = Since BIOS Version   OK = Test OK!   N/A = Not support   "-" = Under Testing

Socket AM2+
Motherboard Model GA-MA770-DS3(rev. 2.0)
PCB 2.0
Vender Model Frequency L2 Cache L3 Cache Core Name Process Stepping Wattage System
Bus(MT/s)
5200
AMD Phenom II X4 940 3000MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 125W 3600 FB
AMD Phenom II X4 920 2800MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 125W 3600 FB
AMD Phenom X4 9850 2500MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 125W 4000 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9850 2500MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 4000 FB
AMD Phenom X4 9750 2400MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 125W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9750 2400MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2300MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9600 2300MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9550 2200MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA


But nowhere do I find "Fx" or "FXX" whatever that means. Is it the FA's and FB's? Those Bios versions?

Can I put a Phenom II in there? Not that I can get hold of a Phenom II X4 940 or 920 since they are out of print...



Objectively:

Desktop <$200 - AMD
Desktop $200 - $300 - AMD for more multithreaded performance, Intel for more single-thread performance
Desktop >$300 - Intel
Server 1P-4P - AMD (Magny-Cours)
Server 8P - Intel (Nehalem-EX)
Supercomputers - AMD
All Laptops - Intel

Subjectively:

AMD, since I'd like to see a more competitive CPU market and AMD is fighting from an unfair position brought about by Intel's antitrust actions meaning it didn't have enough R&D money to recover from Barcelona, whereas Intel could afford to market its way out of Pentium 4 being a disaster.

Llano (Fusion) and Zambezi (Bulldozer) should be a return to competition; Intel can't match the Radeon graphics.





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For gamers & general internet, word processing work, AMD all the way, you don't need anything more than what they offer.



intel for processors, i5 750@3.5ghz

but amd-ati for cards the 5850 is the best card ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Slimebeast said:
Squilliam said:
Slimebeast said:

Which CPU could I put in my MOBO:

Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3,AMD 770, DDR2, ATX ,Socket-AM2+,

Check which revision board you have: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_List.aspx?FAQID=2234

Then if its Rev 1: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2722

Or Rev 2: http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_List.aspx?ProductID=2874

Essentially if it has Fx or FXX by the processor its supported after a certain revision. If it says N/A then its no supported. This is the far right hand side where you're looking.

This is complicated. I found out i have Rev 2.

It says:

 CPU Support List
Fx = Since BIOS Version   OK = Test OK!   N/A = Not support   "-" = Under Testing

Socket AM2+
Motherboard Model GA-MA770-DS3(rev. 2.0)
PCB 2.0
Vender Model Frequency L2 Cache L3 Cache Core Name Process Stepping Wattage System
Bus(MT/s)
5200
AMD Phenom II X4 940 3000MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 125W 3600 FB
AMD Phenom II X4 920 2800MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 125W 3600 FB
AMD Phenom X4 9850 2500MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 125W 4000 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9850 2500MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 4000 FB
AMD Phenom X4 9750 2400MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 125W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9750 2400MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2300MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9600 2300MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 FA
AMD Phenom X4 9550 2200MHz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 FA


But nowhere do I find "Fx" or "FXX" whatever that means. Is it the FA's and FB's? Those Bios versions?

Can I put a Phenom II in there? Not that I can get hold of a Phenom II X4 940 or 920 since they are out of print...

Fx where x = any number or character. Sorry I didn't clarify that. That means that if you update to the latest bios you can upgrade to any of the listed CPUs. My internet is playing up so I can't reload that page but from what I recall there are a bunch of models and pretty much every single Phenom II is supported and I even saw support for the Phenom II X6 as well. Just scroll down the page and you'll see them all.

 

 



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dobby985 said:
haxxiy said:

I kind of sympathize with AMD as a company, but I prefer Intel products since I handle with high-performance, uh, activities :P

I have no idea why people support a company just because they are the underdog. It makes no sense. Support the best company.

That's about human nature, really, and I'm aware of it. People prefer to sympathize with the weak than admire the strong. Think how many political leaders have been elected that way.



 

 

 

 

 

I never need the fastest CPU available, so AMD offers me the best price/performance.
BTW AMD/ATI almost always offers better chipsets.



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