I honestly think if they make a slim it will use the same HDD why redesign the console and the drives if they stick to an external drive.

They can just make it smaller horizontally, not vertically. The only thing to the right of the power on button is USB connections. Move them to the other side, get rid of one of the memory card slots. or both, as they are doing away with them anyway.

I think these shots of this "new" motherboard are a totally new system that is all that will save microsoft now

I don't think they do anymore. They charge 15 dollars plus 5 shipping for that item now. They once gave it away, but they stopped over the last year.

Simple solution, just don't buy a slim.

Not to seem like a dick, but if your current 360 is working perfectly fine why waste $200-300 on the same exact thing only slimmer and unable to use your existing HDD?

Ssssssh!!!!! Damnit!!! The way to do it is you have to speak BS in order to prop up fantasies about a certain system and completely disregard anything which contradicts in order to make it seem that the Xbox 360 has near unlimited potential! Stop contradicting my BS please!

I'm surprised that you didn't busted out. It's surprising how that the vast majority of the people who hate the Xbox 360, know so very little about it. It's actually a well designed system conceptually, and the game installs, along with the HardDrive and content management is vastly superior to the system used with the PS3, and the controller has really spolied me. Also, the onine intigration through the dashboard is fantastic, in gold of silver, while PSN is clunky, by comparison. The DS controller should have the analog stick where the directional pad is. That way, left to right motion would be more easily achieved during driving games, AND the gamefreek steering attachment would be usable in the proper horozontal position. My other issue with the controller, is the tightness of the analog stick. Sony went with looser sticks, and thus needed to have greater allowances for dead center(similar to the gamecube and N64 controllers with very loose sticks, and straying from the original Playstation controller, with its tighter, but more prone to getting off center, sticks). I feel that Sony did this to give the controller a longer shelf-life, by allowing for eventual natural loosening of the resistance dampers.

That means I have to move the stick farther to gain initial movement from the stick, while with the 360 controller with its tighter stick, feels more responsive. That said, the 360 remote has no motion controller component, so that is a large advantage of the PS3 controller.That said, the asthetics of the firmware and the ergonomics of the controller are less antiquated on the Xbox 360. That, along with a few exclusives, is one of the few reasons I still own one. The largest advantage I give the PS3 is the smoothness of the experience. The 360 does tend to lag and stutter under all weight of the dashboard, which is a real turnoff. The PS3 on the other hand, is smooth as silk, and has more interesting, imo, exclusives releasing in the near future.

If the 360 does release a slim model, I hope for improved performance(more ram or something) just to help with the dashboard. I want the new console to have improved functionality, not just a new look, and MS needs to make that happen if they want to make me get rid of my goddamn new hard-drive.

You guys are nuts with this whole "what do I do to upgrade, when a slim is released??" thing.

What makes you think MS wants to burn money by selling you a new console, probably with a built-in HDD and at a loss, to replace your current 360? That's not gonna increase their software/accessory sales, and hence profit, now is it?

If there's a 360 slim, there won't be any connecting old HDDs to it. It'll have one built-in, and transferring data will NOT be an option. You think MS is gonna foot the bill for your electronics habit, when you're not gonna buy any more profitable items than you would have otherwise?

On top of that, they definately aren't going to let you transfer XBLA licenses or savegames -- you can play a 360 without hooking it up to the internet, you know, so there'd be nothing stopping you from copying a whole slew of games to the old HDD for a pal, and letting him have it, thereby screwing MS out of even more money. There will be NO upgrade path. None.

It will make NPD and their own sharehold reports look good in terms of unit sales. It will make the console look even more successful to people in the shops. It will reduce their legacy exposure to RROD repairs and it will make available cheap Xbox 360s for people who would otherwise not have one as people give away/sell their older units. As for profit, well its up in the air as given the fact we don't know what they will charge or how much it will cost to make one.

Microsoft already lets people transfer games/DLC into new machines so I don't see how they wouldn't have provisions for this in the terms agreed to by developers and publishers who sell content on Xbox Live.

[quote]On top of that, they definately aren't going to let you transfer XBLA licenses or savegames -- you can play a 360 without hooking it up to the internet, you know, so there'd be nothing stopping you from copying a whole slew of games to the old HDD for a pal, and letting him have it, thereby screwing MS out of even more money. There will be NO upgrade path. None[quote]

Xbox Live Arcade games are registered to one account and one Xbox 360 so thats not a problem. Theres talk that they will allow people to put their saves online with the next update so if that happens it will be a moot point anyway.

That's a god point, i mean, for those who hasn't get their console.