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Forums - Sales Discussion - Does anyone think PS3 can realistically get to second place?

To: Loud Hot White Box

Also as a side note, Gran Turismo for PSP sold only 700,000 units. It's true it received a poor rating, however i still beleive any die hard racing fan, or die hard Gran Turismo fan would have still bought it if they owned a PSP. If I owned a PSP, I probably would have, especially since all the cars I unlock in that game are uploadable to GT5.

Why did that game sell soo poorly, but prior Gran Turismo games do well?

I just think it's unreasonable to assume GT5 will sell as well as it's predicessors, and I beleive the PS3 only having (after a couple years), half as many consoles as PS1 and a third as many consoles as PS2, makes a big difference.

It will be an epic game, it will outself Forza and all other compeditors, and most likely receive a better review score as well. I still personally prefer Forza (I have both a PS3 and 360), but that doesn't matter. I am doing my best to give an unbaised opinion, unlike most people here. I mean Grand Thieft Auto on PS2 also sold more then double it did on PS3. Yes GTA4 is also available on 360, unlike GT, but Forza is a serious and respectable compeditor, and has had over 3 years to win over current gen gamers (Since Forza 2). Grand Thieft Auto was also available on X-box 1 too.

I mean, all the evidence I see point to GT5 selling less then any other console Gran Turismo, just look at other PS3 exclusives. FinalFantasy X - 7.95 million, Final Fantasy X-2 5.21 million, Final Fantasy XII - 5.69 million, Final Fantasy XIII - probably 4.5 million in the end, Metal Gear Solid 2 (featuring Raiden, and getting a poorer review), 5.58 million, MGS5 under 5 million (while being bundled at launch), etc. It's not just Sony big exclusives that follow this pattern, Halo, Mario Kart, Mrio Party, GTA, they all follow this pattern!

Even Gran Turismo itself (the franchise in question), sold significantly more copies on PS2 then PS1. GT 3 sold 14.89 million, while GT1 sold 10.85 million, thats 27% less! GT 4 sold 10.54 million units, while GT2 sold 9.37 million units, which is still 11% less. Remember PS2 sold (to date) 136.56 million units, and PS1 sold 102.49 million units, thats a 25% difference in consoles, and wait GT3 and GT1 have a 27% difference? This is not a coincidence! however if I just did this math straight, GT5 would only sell about 5.4 million units. I give it the credit to beleive it will do more, 6 million is reasonable, 8 million is generous, and 10 million is more then Gran Turismo 2! Which is ridiculous to me!

So I have given you, and all others sufficient reasoning to beleive GT5 will not dominate. It will become the best selling exclusive PS3 title, but thats only a 5 million jump. Maybe it will outsell GTA, and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, but thats still under 10 million, and I think Modern Warfare 2 is unbeatable (HD console wise).

If you can't give a more sufficient reason then "Because I said so, because your a dumb fanboy who doesn't understand economics," Then don't bother responding.



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