Relax, it's only been a few hours.  I'm sure he'll be returning any second now to contribute more to his own thread.

Any second now.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this: even though they have been labeled as the future, the vast majority of games don't use motion controls and thats not gonna change any time soon. Even with the release of move and natal motion controls will be relegated to a select few games. 

This too. Personally, I couldn't care less about Move, really, but I can understand why it irks a lot of people.

It's not that they copied Nintendo, it's that they did it AFTER downplaying Wii, its controls, and Nintendo in general since the console was unveiled. It's the utter hypocrisy of it.

My problem with Sony this generation has been that it cannot seem to find its way.

Remember rumble
Remember B/C
Now its take two on motion controls.

Other than become the winning side in the next DVD format (which given the transition to digital may be a hollow victory), the PS3 has been a mess this generation.

Now everyone is talking about how great the tech for Move is vs. the Wii Remote. Pachter calls it "what the Wii HD should have been" and PS3 fans talk about how great it will be.

Meanwhile, the comparisons are not always fair (the Wii Remote with WM+ is the new standard -- now sold with every Wii). And the misguided belief that there will be great support for the Move is just the stuff of ignorant, idle dreams.

After all, when I mentioned the fact that Sony was trying to showcase ports of bad Wii games in the magazine preview at a game store (e.g., AMF Pinbusters: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=31553&region=All), the Sony Rep overheard me and talked about how great it would be and that SoCom would be Move compatible. Given this same person (the Sony Rep) tried to sell me on the PSP-Go, I would take the advise with a grain of salt. (I know this is off base but it happened).

Mike from Morgantown

Only somewhat valid reason I can think of is that Sony at first claimed motion controls to be gimmicky, and then did a quickturn and made their own controller. But even that should be seen as a victory for those Nintendo fans who embraced it from the beginning. Unless motion controls was only cool as long as it was exclusive to Nintendo.

Otherwise it's mostly the usual fanboy talk. "It belongs to us", similar to the recent FFvXIII discussions. You also have fanboys using the "Copy card", something you can also see with Sony fanboys trying to bash Natal.

I believe most Nintendo fans (the ones that liked motion controls, that is) are atleast a bit interested in both Move and Natal, but I also believe that many are disappointed, atleast in Move, when you look at the upcoming games. Most of the games have already been done on the Wii.

thanks for clarifying. it seems like we found commen ground. agreed. what hppend to the mario statment?

P.S. am i giving up to soon?

Uhmm clearly you know nothing about HTC. HTC has been making smartphones for a much longer time than Apple.

HTC does not make the OS. In the case of the suit Apple is going after the android phones. Android is a google venture but many of the features that apple is suing over are also present in the WinMo phones as well. It happens to be a case I am very familiar with for work related reasons.

Wii owners can feel pretty content that PS3 owners are just now getting something they've enjoyed since 2006.

And hey, PS2 owners did just fine last gen coping with multiplats that were almost always the worst in every department.

The brutal truth 

Well, I get ticked off when people claim move's library is better than the wii's library... when Move hasnt even been released yet...