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Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.



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Cry me a freaking River. I swear people get WAY too emotional over video games. I'm here to watch numbers and pay attention to the sales of games and consoles not to see a hundred threads full of kids whining over how depressed they are over games going multi-plat and and crying about how their consoles are TEH BEZT EVEA!!!!!

Some people need to get over it and realize that at the end of the day games are about having fun and if your sitting around all day on the internet crying and fighting over them then your completely missing the point.

OT: I'm sure Versus will go multi-plat because it just makes sense. The 360 version has already sold well over a million copies and will easily hit 1.5-2 million lifetime. Why on Earth would they ignore that?



V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

I think at the formal reveal of Versus XIII we'r gonna see the V in the word Versus move to the end, the "XIII" disappear & the "ersus disappear" giving us FFXV



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

Thaaaaank yoouu. And Se's current strategy isn't working. Releasing exclusive JRPGs on the 360? All of them bombed. Finally release a PS3 game, low and behold, it outsells the 360 version by 4x. Now, let's try something new, because they should change direction again, don't you think? How about you give the PS3 some exclusive treatment, instead of completely cutting it off? 

Nobody ever said "the more people who get to play the game, the better" before Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant came out (but that theory doesn't even apply to me because if you look at trends you will see that multiplatform =/= more sales overall. It equals splitting the fanbase). Let's not be hypocrites here. Let the PS3 keep its exclusive, and no one say "the more, the better", just like you do with all 360 exclusives. I think the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" belongs in this situation involving FFvXIII and 360 fans



Wada's just treading the fine line between the investors and the existing fanbase. He can't confirm exclusivity to the investors, or else they're going to question the wisdom of his leadership. Notice how this response came through Twitter? He's saying different things to different audiences, and the truth is lost in between.



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BMaker11 said:
V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

Thaaaaank yoouu. And Se's current strategy isn't working. Releasing exclusive JRPGs on the 360? All of them bombed. Finally release a PS3 game, low and behold, it outsells the 360 version by 4x. Now, let's try something new, because they should change direction again, don't you think? How about you give the PS3 some exclusive treatment, instead of completely cutting it off? 

Nobody ever said "the more people who get to play the game, the better" before Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant came out (but that theory doesn't even apply to me because if you look at trends you will see that multiplatform =/= more sales overall. It equals splitting the fanbase). Let's not be hypocrites here. Let the PS3 keep its exclusive, and no one say "the more, the better", just like you do with all 360 exclusives. I think the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" belongs in this situation involving FFvXIII and 360 fans

SE just got their highest fiscal year since the merger, FFXIII wouldn't have sold this much if it was only on PS3.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

darthdevidem01 said:
BMaker11 said:
V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

Thaaaaank yoouu. And Se's current strategy isn't working. Releasing exclusive JRPGs on the 360? All of them bombed. Finally release a PS3 game, low and behold, it outsells the 360 version by 4x. Now, let's try something new, because they should change direction again, don't you think? How about you give the PS3 some exclusive treatment, instead of completely cutting it off? 

Nobody ever said "the more people who get to play the game, the better" before Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant came out (but that theory doesn't even apply to me because if you look at trends you will see that multiplatform =/= more sales overall. It equals splitting the fanbase). Let's not be hypocrites here. Let the PS3 keep its exclusive, and no one say "the more, the better", just like you do with all 360 exclusives. I think the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" belongs in this situation involving FFvXIII and 360 fans

SE just got their highest fiscal year since the merger, FFXIII wouldn't have sold this much if it was only on PS3.

It does raise an interesting point though. SE has yet to release an exclusive game on PS3 when the 360 has had 2 console exclusives and 1 timed exclusive (there may be more but I can't think of the off the top of my head). It seems odd they'd do that unless MS were paying them bucket loads or they were trying to build a fanbase on 360 for the multiplat FFXIII.



Scoobes said:
darthdevidem01 said:
BMaker11 said:
V-r0cK said:

SE just got their highest fiscal year since the merger, FFXIII wouldn't have sold this much if it was only on PS3.

It does raise an interesting point though. SE has yet to release an exclusive game on PS3 when the 360 has had 2 console exclusives and 1 timed exclusive (there may be more but I can't think of the off the top of my head). It seems odd they'd do that unless MS were paying them bucket loads or they were trying to build a fanbase on 360 for the multiplat FFXIII.

Who knows, but the reason given in interviews for those exclusives was to break more JRPG's into the western market. Back then PS3 was doing LESS than the GBA in America every month. There was so much pessimism for it back then.

But with FFXIII's release it kinds showed that most JRPG fans are on the PS3 (by the staggering difference).

Apparently SO4 & TOV were only 360 exclusive (NOT SE games but still) because they got Xbox 360 dev kits first.

I'm sure the real picture is not as innocent as I have made it seem like, money, fame, blackmail, horror & murder could have been involved.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

BMaker11 said:
V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

Thaaaaank yoouu. And Se's current strategy isn't working. Releasing exclusive JRPGs on the 360? All of them bombed. Finally release a PS3 game, low and behold, it outsells the 360 version by 4x. Now, let's try something new, because they should change direction again, don't you think? How about you give the PS3 some exclusive treatment, instead of completely cutting it off? 

Nobody ever said "the more people who get to play the game, the better" before Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant came out (but that theory doesn't even apply to me because if you look at trends you will see that multiplatform =/= more sales overall. It equals splitting the fanbase). Let's not be hypocrites here. Let the PS3 keep its exclusive, and no one say "the more, the better", just like you do with all 360 exclusives. I think the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" belongs in this situation involving FFvXIII and 360 fans

The RPGs you are talking about are rather niche and did not portray to a wide audience.

Final Fantasy is one of the largest RPG series in the entire world, it naturally follows that its sales would be astronomical.

Also, multiplaform = more sales, because you're not splitting the fanbase. The million sales for the 360 would NOT be transferred onto the PS3 if it were exclusive as you are saying, since it doesn't work that way. Sales were on the 360 because people who had only a 360 bought FF13 on the 360. 

EDIT: Let me add one thing, why do you think it's wrong more people get to play a good game?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

darthdevidem01 said:
BMaker11 said:
V-r0cK said:
Huya said:

Companies don't have a retry button, when its your biggest franchise ever your not going to gamble and see how it goes. The JRPGs xbox got were mediocre at best if they want to try with PS3 they should make an exclusive mediocre JRPG and see how that goes!

FFXIII was their biggest franchise as to why that went multiplat,  FF Versus XIII is something else (a spin off as some would like to call it but not me lol). 

The only reason Versus XIII is so big (equivalent or even greater than FFXIII) is simply the fact that its Nomura thats running the show with his view, his artwork etc.  You take away Nomura from Versus XIII and do you really think it'd be as big as it is now?  Without Nomura, Versus XIII couldve possibly ended up like any other of Square's RPG or even the FF spin-offs on the Wii.

I say Wada already ran the show with their biggest game (FFXIII) and made it multiplat, so let Nomura do what he wants with Versus XIII as he feels whats best for it.

As well of course companies dont have a retry button, but companies should also know to change direction to see which is more suited and benificial for the company if their current views arent exactly working.

Thaaaaank yoouu. And Se's current strategy isn't working. Releasing exclusive JRPGs on the 360? All of them bombed. Finally release a PS3 game, low and behold, it outsells the 360 version by 4x. Now, let's try something new, because they should change direction again, don't you think? How about you give the PS3 some exclusive treatment, instead of completely cutting it off? 

Nobody ever said "the more people who get to play the game, the better" before Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant came out (but that theory doesn't even apply to me because if you look at trends you will see that multiplatform =/= more sales overall. It equals splitting the fanbase). Let's not be hypocrites here. Let the PS3 keep its exclusive, and no one say "the more, the better", just like you do with all 360 exclusives. I think the phrase "you can't have your cake and eat it too" belongs in this situation involving FFvXIII and 360 fans

SE just got their highest fiscal year since the merger, FFXIII wouldn't have sold this much if it was only on PS3.

And this has nothing to do with Batman: AA, DQIX, KH: 358/2, and DQVI selling millions? Of the 15.83M that was sold in one year (not including the other games mentioned), 360 FF only brought in a little over a million. Was that the difference maker? 

http://kotaku.com/5541452/final-fantasy-xiii-batman-selling-millions-millions 

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Look at MGS4 and compare to MGS3, now look at a game like DMC4 to other DMCs. See how the exclusive series that stayed exclusive matched up (actually surpassed), its former exclusive iteration? See how the exclusive series that went multiplatform stayed the same as its former exclusive iteration? SPLIT THE FANBASE! I have nothing wrong with more people playing the game, but if you look at the sales, it doesn't look like MORE people are playing the game. Seems like the SAME people are playing the game