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No, I think they're going to slowly try and adapt to Nintendo's stratagy of not selling the console at a loss, so every new gen is a success profit wise for them, even if they come third it doesn't matter (look at gamecube), that way they'll keep going till they strike it lucky (like Nintendo did with Wii)

1st, 2nd and 3rd means nothing in the grand scale of things.



 

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RolStoppable said:
Khuutra said:

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You are a SMURF. Wheres your Kimpossible avatar?!



Tease.

ssj12 said:
Zipper said:

Do you think it possible that if not will not be successful, Microsoft will get out of the console race?

They said they see it as something that will give the Xbox 360 another 5 years in the market and will continue in the next generation of consoles with their next console

Let say Natal fails, what do you think they will do? how will they keep selling the Xbox 360? The sales now are obviously great, but how could they keep them? can the Xbox 360 really live beyond it 5th year?

If the Xbox 360 sales starts falling down, do you think they'll just launch their next console to get the advantage like they did in this generation?

Most importantly - What will they do if Sony's next console is successful like the PS2 as opposed to the first Xbox? Will they keep their console alive until the generation after? Is Xbox and Microsoft Games Studios really that important to Microsoft from a financial standpoint to the point where if it fails so hard like the first 2 years of the PS3, they will still keep it?

1. No

2. They will just take the bleeding of R&D money like they did the first xbox. It will live for a few more years.

3. In three years I see a new xbox, not sooner.

4. PS3 vs Oringal Xbox can't even be compared as the Original Xbox never made a profit off the console itself thanks to Nvidia never shrinking the GPU. If you want a console to compare to maybe PS3 vs the Genesis or one of the other SEGA consoles before the Dreamcast. And no, the Xbox division really isnt that important to Microsoft. They would dump it instantly if investors said so. You could turn on your Xbox 360 one day and never connect to XBLA again, it could happen, easily. They they more thrilled with Windows 7's sales and what future Windows 8's launch in 2012 will bring them.

@ 4. Can't we say the same about Sony considering they have more markets?~~



ssj12 said:
Zipper said:

Do you think it possible that if not will not be successful, Microsoft will get out of the console race?

They said they see it as something that will give the Xbox 360 another 5 years in the market and will continue in the next generation of consoles with their next console

Let say Natal fails, what do you think they will do? how will they keep selling the Xbox 360? The sales now are obviously great, but how could they keep them? can the Xbox 360 really live beyond it 5th year?

If the Xbox 360 sales starts falling down, do you think they'll just launch their next console to get the advantage like they did in this generation?

Most importantly - What will they do if Sony's next console is successful like the PS2 as opposed to the first Xbox? Will they keep their console alive until the generation after? Is Xbox and Microsoft Games Studios really that important to Microsoft from a financial standpoint to the point where if it fails so hard like the first 2 years of the PS3, they will still keep it?

1. No

2. They will just take the bleeding of R&D money like they did the first xbox. It will live for a few more years.

3. In three years I see a new xbox, not sooner.

4. PS3 vs Oringal Xbox can't even be compared as the Original Xbox never made a profit off the console itself thanks to Nvidia never shrinking the GPU. If you want a console to compare to maybe PS3 vs the Genesis or one of the other SEGA consoles before the Dreamcast. And no, the Xbox division really isnt that important to Microsoft. They would dump it instantly if investors said so. You could turn on your Xbox 360 one day and never connect to XBLA again, it could happen, easily. They they more thrilled with Windows 7's sales and what future Windows 8's launch in 2012 will bring them.

Ah yes, another reason to hate Nvidea...yes I am an ATI fanboy! lol



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ironman said:
Zipper said:

Do you think it possible that if not will not be successful, Microsoft will get out of the console race?

No. They will try again next gen.

They said they see it as something that will give the Xbox 360 another 5 years in the market and will continue in the next generation of consoles with their next console

Let say Natal fails, what do you think they will do? how will they keep selling the Xbox 360? The sales now are obviously great, but how could they keep them? can the Xbox 360 really live beyond it 5th year?

Yes, if natal sales fail, the 360 sales will not dip much lower than now over the next few years.

If the Xbox 360 sales starts falling down, do you think they'll just launch their next console to get the advantage like they did in this generation?

I have mixed feeling about this, I just bought my first 360 after being able to use my brothers for two years. So I really would like to have this gen last a little longer so there are more games for the 360, on the flip side, I would love to see what the next console will be.


Most importantly - What will they do if Sony's next console is successful like the PS2 as opposed to the first Xbox? Will they keep their console alive until the generation after? Is Xbox and Microsoft Games Studios really that important to Microsoft from a financial standpoint to the point where if it fails so hard like the first 2 years of the PS3, they will still keep it?

Who cares, as long as they make a profit I think they will stick with it and try again next gen. MS looks at the long term as well as the short, they are very business savy.  

The sales are declining year on year, and i think the sales will continue to decline faster than they have if natal fails. i'm saying there will be great sales, but just not that great; honestly natal is very good, very innovative, but i dont see people like, girlfriends & older people getting into it. i dont see it proloning the life cycle by 5 years.

i think launching a new console is absolute sucicide especailly if natal fails. theres no advantage in that, the components and the performance would have to exceed the ps3 for it to compete with sony. which would make it more expensive to manufacture, and more expensive to consumers. evidently the sales of the wii show that the consumer wants the best bargan, and the PS3 which is the most expensive has sold the least of the 3 consoles. most importantly its very expensive and time consuming to develop HD games, GTA4 costing $100 million, and GTA5 i think is the longest game in development. i think theres no way any developer would think about supporting a new console in the next 4 years minimum.

As for the PS3, i think if microsoft did release their next console, sony would use the PS3 to compete with that. because PS3 already has a complete package, HD games, blu ray player, PS move, 3D etc. it would be sucicide to release new consoles, when the PS3 & 360 havent reached 50 million yet and wii has not hit 100 mil either. considering its taken 5 years to reach 40 million and sales are decllining year on year, then by the next 5 years, arguabally the 360 wouldnt have reached 85 mil.

thats says to me that there just isnt a market for a bigger, better, more expense consoles, especilly in economic recovery and espcaily when the current gen consoles seem to be capable of everthing you want these days. why would anyone pay more for something that can already be done on a cheaper console.

 



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No. Even very slow adoption of their motion control gamble won't put EDD into the red. They can afford a reduction in profit. They threw $100m at Bing like we use spare change.

After paying $4B last gen to get into the business and $1B+ this gen to stay in, it seems unlikely they will quit while earning roughly $1B/yr in profit. Their near monopoly of OS is a thing of the past and the vg business has the potential to earn them $3B/yr next gen. That would be a tenth of net profit on last fy fiscal if I remember correctly. Hopefully they will learn from past mistakes. Xbl is a growing resource stream and an incentive to stay imo. Why chop that money tree?



Dude everyone makes mistakes and goes through failures but there's a thing called endurance and persistence. If Natal flops, then Microsoft will learn from that and will make sure to come up with something that won't flop.



It depends on if Microsoft wants to give up this brand they have built up or not.



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After all the $ they have put into building up their gaming brand I just do not see it. They seemed to have pushed really hard this Gen at least for a certain type of gamer.



Natal is mostly being brought in for the 360 in order to give MS's 1st parties and 3rd parties some training in how to develop for it, such that when the 720 comes out in 2012 or so with Natal as the default control scheme, the launch games don't have the same flaws as many of the launch Wii games