Sony might not make a PS4?

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Wow the first few answeres were really what you call blind devotion... the ones after that made a bit more sense.

Yes for a PS4.... but it needs to profit and have marketshare for there to be a PS5.


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Well, there's always the possibility of Move selling extremely well, 3D gaming being a big hit, and charging for premium services, similar to Xbox Live. The 360 would still make huge losses if they didn't have the revenues of Xbox Live. Last time I checked, they made like 2 billion dollars already. PSN barely did 200 million. The numbers could be a bit old, though.

There's just no question if there will be PS4. The real question is, how it will be. Will they do the same as the PS3, so subsidized, but not as bad as the PS3, or will they go "the Wii way" something compeletely different, new controller scheme or something completely else.

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They will just adopt (more or less) Nintendo's sales plan for the PS4.

If they're smart.

I think they have little choice: their stockholders will demand far better for the PS4.

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nope it's normal to loose money in this buisness and Sony know it. Think about the first xbox or the GC... same thing here

Solid_Snake4RD said:
rmarier83 said:
joeorc said:

and since the Cell processor in the PS3 will soon go to the 22nm scale!,that also mean's more profit there also.

The Cell currently sits at 45nm, the next step will be 32nm (I'm guessing will happen this Summer/Fall).  Only after 32nm has been on the market for about 2-3 years will a new die shrink occur.

It's funny how this generation of console price actually mattered unlike the generation before it were PS2 always costed $100 USD more than the GC.

32nm was happening but Sony snubbed it an year ago.


they could be back on it but they could go to 22nm too.


Most likely 32nm.And 22nm will be there 2011 fall

32 nm will most likely happen, but not sure if this fall already. currently there is only intel who produces complex CPUs in 32nm and they use a bulk silicone process and no SOI process like the cell uses. AMD / Globalfoundries (who are in an technology alliance with IBM for the SOI process  are probably a better indicator for market speed of the IBM CPUs) are currently workign on their 32nm shrinks and are expecting to have volumes ready to ship CPUs to mass market early next year. IBM might be slightly ahead of AMD/Globalfoundries  but consoles on other side are usually waiting a bit for production processes to mature so i doubt there will be a 32nm cell in a console before there are 32nm SOI CPUs on mass market and the process had better testing in volume production.

22nm in 2011 fall is very unlikely to happen. intel plans its first 22nm chips for that timescale, but intel seems to be nearly a year ahead of the other semiconductor manufatorers when it comes to production processes. Other competitors are workign hard to catch up (some even by trying to skip a production node), but still i don't expect to see many 22nm chips in 2011. For seeing 22nm in consoles i would add at least another year to the fall 2011 date. (Consoles need production processes that are matured and can produce high volumes cheap so an early switch is very unlikely)


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i think it will be a long time before we get next gen, with the constant updates and the move comming out. plus the fact they have not got the most out of the ps3 means 2015 maybe 2017 we mite just see the ps4

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Why not? PS3 is a success, they have to.

Solid_Snake4RD said:

wats with all the questions lately Omega?


He have a problem with SONY lol

sly777 said:

nope it's normal to loose money in this buisness and Sony know it. Think about the first xbox or the GC... same thing here

Gamecube never lost money last gen. They made profit on every consoel sold. It just wasn't as succesful as the PS2 and it's DVD playback.

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Sony spent an awful lot of money to launch BD and Cell using PS3. If it will use them, or their evolutions, in its next console, it will be able to consider possibly not recovered losses this gen an investmentt, if it will abandon, it will be a loss, as BD could have been launched in some other less expensive way. So no PS4 would be foolish. But keeping PS4 costs under strict control will be of the essence.

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