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lilc64 on 13 May 2010
Netyaroze said:
It wont use an Cell. Sony asked developers what they would want in the PS4. Also they would have to pay pretty much for the whole development since IBM canceled the cell development it would be better if the PS4 would go for full cores with full instruction set and 2 threads. An emulation should be possible if the CPU has enough cores. Also the Cells technology influences the new IBM CPUs MS will go the same way and eventually Nintendo. Dont think Sony will pay extra money to IBM so they breath in fresh live in an old project.


I could imagine a PPC Oktacore CPU could emulate a Cell if its done properly.


PS3 Controller is fine for me but I wouldnt mind a better one.

To hardware. I looked for the differences between PS1 and PS2 and PS3 if Sony makes a similar step with the PS4 again the hardware could look like this:

PS1 Ram: 2+1 MB
PS2 Ram: 32 MB
PS3 Ram: 512 MB

What we can see here is that each Gen the Ram has increased with approximatly the same factor. Between PS1 and PS2 the ram increased 11-16 fold the same goes for PS2 and PS3.

PS1 CPU: 33 MHZ 30 MIPS (PS3 10400 MIPS without SPUs)
PS2 CPU: 300 MHZ 6 GFLOPs
PS3 CPU: 3,2 GHZ@6 SPUs 80 GFLOPs (double precission)

Ofcourse its hard to extrapolate since the systems are totally different.

Lets assume an typical evolution in all things. With a late 2012 release in mind.

PS4 could look like this hardware wise:


CPU: 8 Core PPC with 3.8 GHZ per core and 2 threads per core.
Graphics: Probably something which can best the ATI HD 5870 by quite a bit.
RAM: 4-6 GB GDDR4 RAM (maybe even GDDR5).


Ofcourse this is just a dream at the moment. But Sony has always exceeded my expections in the past with their new consoles. And the step would be big but would be about as big as the other steps. And with 2012 in mind its nothing that spectacular anymore. We have to take in account that Sony gets other prices for the Hardware then we do and without an Drive Upgrade (no Holodisc for sure) like in the PS3 we could see such a console in December 2012 for 399 Euro sold at loss. Build in 22nm scale.

Woo those specs are amazing but highly unlikely. Very highly unlikely.



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puertoecuanama on 13 May 2010

lol...i highly doubt #5 is even possible, in my opinion, theres nothing to fix...its the most comfortable controller i ever used. if it ever was like an xbox controller i would be pissed!



                 


 

2DeTripaConCilantro on 13 May 2010

The DS3 is the most uncomfortable controller I have used. When you take any controller your Thumb remains in the the top left part of it, when using the DS3 they force us to move down the thumb and it is really painful specially when playing games that requires moving the left stick all the time (i.e. FIFA/PES). It is not ergonomic.

All of you that love DS3 just have gotten used to a bad ergonomic for playing with it during many many years.

The GC/360 controllers are thumb-friendly :).



puertoecuanama on 13 May 2010
2DeTripaConCilantro said:
The DS3 is the most uncomfortable controller I have used. When you take any controller your Thumb remains in the the top left part of it, when using the DS3 they force us to move down the thumb and it is really painful specially when playing games that requires moving the left stick all the time (i.e. FIFA/PES). It is not ergonomic.

All of you that love DS3 just have gotten used to a bad ergonomic for playing with it during many many years.

The GC/360 controllers are thumb-friendly :).

nope...from the moment i started using a dualshock controller, i loved it, it was perfect for me. on the other hand, the moment i started using the xbox controller, i felt like banging my head on the wall. it wasnt for me.



                 


 

Ssenkahdavic on 13 May 2010
Rainbird said:
V-r0cK said:
Rainbird said:
V-r0cK said:
Noooo the DS3 is the best and most comfortable controller everrr

You should try the Classic Controller Pro for the Wii. Trust me, there is room for improvement

Well im sure there's always room for improvement but after selling +200 million Dual Shock controllers, im sure many are accustomed and are comfortable to it.  Dont fix what's not broken i think.  As well if using the same design, surely it'll save some money for Sony.

The only thing i can think of to improve the Dual Shock style is to maybe add some grip material at the bottom of the controller for when you hold it.

Well, it's one thing to fix what isn't broken, it's another to improve what can be improved.

I think that, ergonomically, the CCPro has way more going for it than the DS3, and Sony really should change the design. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure this is also totally irrelevant, as I think we'll see the PS4 launch with a controller based on Move. Whether that's the design we know now, that break apart controller or something totally different remains to be seen, but I doubt the DS4 (if there even is one) will be the official PS4 controller.

Simple fix:

I do not see them adding more buttons and since the PS4 will probably still utilize Bluetooth, allow the old controllers to sink up as well.



 

  

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freebs2 on 13 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
FullMetalMerc said:

Im pretty sure Sony already stated they arent useing the cell next gen, They are also currently working on a disc format capable of holding 3 terabytes and i love the DS3.

Soyn has never said any such thing and they haven't said anything about the PS4

 

abt the sony format 3TB,which one?

 

Also even if they were working on anything,Blu-ray will be there on PS4 no matter what.PS4 will there gold mine after making Blu-ray win the format war on PS3 and will recoup all loses

HVD- But it seems like something more far away in time than the ps4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc



Dgc1808 on 13 May 2010

I expect the system to be bundled with a redesigned Break apart controller that handles the job of both move and DS3.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 14 May 2010
freebs2 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
FullMetalMerc said:

Im pretty sure Sony already stated they arent useing the cell next gen, They are also currently working on a disc format capable of holding 3 terabytes and i love the DS3.

Soyn has never said any such thing and they haven't said anything about the PS4

 

abt the sony format 3TB,which one?

 

Also even if they were working on anything,Blu-ray will be there on PS4 no matter what.PS4 will there gold mine after making Blu-ray win the format war on PS3 and will recoup all loses

HVD- But it seems like something more far away in time than the ps4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

HVD is being researched by many not just SONY and Sony even if they could develop HVD by 2012 PS4 luanch,they won't launch it cause it will give BD a fight which they don't want

 

arleast not till the PS5



andremop on 14 May 2010

Ps4 will be a lot different from ps1/ps2/ps3

I think move is going to be the standard controller for starters.
And will not be called PS4... maybe not even Playstation! That'll be cool!



Solid_Snake4RD on 14 May 2010
GrotesqueOne said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
GrotesqueOne said:

heres a few of my predictions for Sony's next console...

1. the PS4 will not be called "Playstation 4" it will have a specific name somthing new and refreshing like "The Playstaion __________" <--(insert somthing creative here)

2. It will still use a cell type processor and all PS4's will have backwards compatability with PS3 games from day one. This means trophies earned on PS3 games will carry over to the new console.

3. Bluray disk games will hold 80-100 GB max

4. PSN will still be free to use but sony will introduce a optional premium account for users willing to pay for exclusive content.

5. Sony will beef up their controller. Its time for a facelift. buttons will remain in the same positions but the controller will fill the users hands more like the xbox controller. They will definately remove the sixaxis.

bluray discs are expected to hold 1tb by 2011 end,Pioneer are developing them

 

and trophies on PSN has nothing to do with CELL

yeah but theres no way there going utalize 1tb disks in the ps4, so i dont think its probable

 

and you right trophies have nothing to do with the cell but backwards compatibility on the ps4 will allow trophies to carry over

"backwards compatibility on the ps4 will allow trophies to carry over"

 

how,the trophies are on PSN.if its backward compatible then you could play ps3 games on ps4 and earn them but even if not backward comparible,trophies will show on PSN

 

Also whether they can put games of 1TB on PS3 or not,Blu-rays will be that much as all BLU-RAY players can play those high capacity BD's even the PS3.

 

Also like last gen everybody said nobody will fill a blu-ray disc which is 10 times the size of a normal DVD,BUT games on PS3 are that big so nobody knows plus with the higher processing power even more space will be needed to get games to the next level

 

by the next gen games will reach atleast 200gbs if not 1tb and they will easily reach 500gbs size by PS4's last years as PS4 launches in 2012 and will sell till Sony's 10 years plan to 2022 and as we have seen in the recent years data usage is increasing at a very fast rate