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You would have to say the PS3 is in trouble from those figures - both the PS2/360 were low, but both were "generation leaders" - and had lots of time to build a lead. Also significant is that the Wii is first in that list, and launched at the same time as the PS3 (with restricted hardware shipments, etc..).

 



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Interesting the worst two are the recent HD systems.  Wasn't there supposed to be an HD revolution or did we have a different one?



 $ spent on hardware... 

Wii - $465 mill
PS3 - $580 mill probably (600/500 mix)
Xbox 360 - $380 probably (400/300 mix)

  

 

 



TheSource said:

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Wii 1.86 million (Nov-Feb)

Xbox 1.69 million (Nov-Feb)

Gamecube 1.38 million (Nov-Feb)

PS2 1.36 million (Oct-Jan)

PS3 1.06 million (Nov-Feb)

Xbox 360 1.00 million (Nov-Feb)

 


Of course these numbers alone don't tell the full story.  Both Wii and the 360 suffered supply issues during their first months.  And the PS3 could have sold more during the holiday season but demand has dried up since.  While it's certainly a concern that Sony isn't selling more PS3s, considering all the factors going against the console right now the sales situation isn't too surprising.  I think we need to give Sony until after the holidays before raising any red flags, however.



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Hus said:

 $ spent on hardware... 

Wii - $465 mill
PS3 - $580 mill probably (600/500 mix)
Xbox 360 - $380 probably (400/300 mix)

  

 

 


Wii is making money while PS3 is losing money, and the price per unit is very different...

 

Anyway, PS1 and PS2 had slow starts but the competition was not nearly as strong.

 First off, the 360 has a huge lead. Even is the PS3 outsells the 360 by 300k WW per month it would still take two years to even catch them... And Wii has a 3 million lead and is outselling them 2-1 or better.

 I think a 4 month comparison WW (counting from when the system lauched in each region) will give a better idea.

PS3 did ok in Europe first week then had a huge drop, and if they drop again week 3,4,5... While the Wii is upping production, Sony is in trouble (well they already are).

The best Sony can hope for is to ONLY lose 50% of their market share (which is huge). At worst they will probably be fighting over 45% with MS (Wii with 55%).

And Sony only has a short while to act, if it isn't too late already. They got the highest price and are losing money so they cant drop as easily. But if they dont every 3rd party game on the PS3 will also be on the 360...

And the Wii gets more and more support every day.



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Hus said:

 $ spent on hardware... 

Wii - $465 mill
PS3 - $580 mill probably (600/500 mix)
Xbox 360 - $380 probably (400/300 mix)

  

 

 

Why does that matter?

Anyways ...

After hearing of a co-worker who spent $200 on a remote control (the second excessive purchase I was told about from co-workers this week) I decided that price probably isn't the biggest problem Sony is facing; and that the PS3 probably should be selling far better than it is. I started asking myself "Why is the PS3 selling so poorly then?" and the only conclusion I could come to is that the PS3 simply isn't cool ...

I don't know whether it was Nintendo's work with the DS and Wii or whether Sony's hubris with the PS3 cause it but the PS3 is seen by most of the world as "an expensive version of the exact same system we already own with slightly better graphics"



HappySqurriel said:

 


"an expensive version of the exact same system we already own with slightly better graphics"


LOL

perfect description of the wii.

 

 



It could be said that PS1 didn't have as strong competition (though the N64 launched very well), but it could also be said that PS1 didn't have the support of the PlayStation brand, whereas PS3 does. Still the same basic point. A good launch doesn't necessarily dictate long-term success, nor does a bad launch dictate long-term failure.



I always like graphics and pictures better than numbers, it gives an idea, and honestly in the overall scheme there isn't a huge difference between all of them, if we were to compare the total numbers in a column behind these it would paint a different picture. PS3 is okay... I think. 

LOL Hus - You are SUCH a fanboy.



Hus said:
HappySqurriel said:

 


"an expensive version of the exact same system we already own with slightly better graphics"


LOL

perfect description of the wii.

 

 

So the Gamecube was a system that was focused on inovative gameplay through the use of motion control?