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What I got from that article:

'Nintendo iz d00m3d!!1'


It's always the same. XD



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You know, 20 years ago an article like that wouldn't have been run because it falls quite firmly under the definitions of "libel" and "hearsay". I miss the days when we had standards in place that kept people from making controversial claims about what people said and did without providing traceable source materials to back it up...



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Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.



jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

According to who?? Don't kid yourself. The Wii did not sell on quality game titles, it sold because it was accessible and family friendly while headed by heavy and very successful marketing. Most of the large selling wii titles are just shameless remakes, and so unless you think games shouldn't improve per generation, you've not got a leg to stand on.

Plus if farmville & MW2 have taught us anything, quality of games means nothing.



Mazty said:
jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

According to who?? Don't kid yourself. The Wii did not sell on quality game titles, it sold because it was accessible and family friendly while headed by heavy and very successful marketing. Most of the large selling wii titles are just shameless remakes, and so unless you think games shouldn't improve per generation, you've not got a leg to stand on.

Plus if farmville & MW2 have taught us anything, quality of games means nothing.

Nintendo won on the strength of their software.  Consumers chose Wii and DS because of games like New Super Mario Bros., Brain-Age, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, etc.  They make the best games in the business according to the massmarket.  That's their greatest strength against Apple, just as it was against Sony.



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jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

Nintendo did not make better games last Gen and the Gen before that, it's only this Gen they are starting to make better games, right ?



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psrock said:
jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

Nintendo did not make better games last Gen and the Gen before that, it's only this Gen they are starting to make better games, right ?

According to the market, yes.   The games on PlayStation and PlayStation 2 were preferable.  Now the games on Nintendo DS and Wii are preferable.



jarrod said:
psrock said:
jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

Nintendo did not make better games last Gen and the Gen before that, it's only this Gen they are starting to make better games, right ?

According to the market, yes.   The games on PlayStation and PlayStation 2 were preferable.  Now the games on Nintendo DS and Wii are preferable.

Sony made better games in PS1 and PS2 era than Nintendo but this Generation Nintendo is making better games thus the reason they are winning this Generation, right?



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psrock said:
jarrod said:
psrock said:
jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

Nintendo did not make better games last Gen and the Gen before that, it's only this Gen they are starting to make better games, right ?

According to the market, yes.   The games on PlayStation and PlayStation 2 were preferable.  Now the games on Nintendo DS and Wii are preferable.

Sony made better games in PS1 and PS2 era than Nintendo but this Generation Nintendo is making better games thus the reason they are winning this Generation, right?

Who said anything about Sony?  I'm saying (in terms of the market) there were better games on PS1 than N64, and PS2 than GC.  Now there are better games on DS than PSP, and Wii than PS3.  

If you wanted to delve deeper, I'd also put forward that the best DS/Wii games, and the ones that have really driven the market, were almost all from Nintendo.  And the the best games on PS1/PS2, the ones that also really drove those markets, were mostly not from Sony.



jarrod said:
psrock said:
jarrod said:
psrock said:
jarrod said:
Mazty said:
Nintendo could never beat Apple. Apple have better marketing and essentially better products. They may not be the best in the market e.g. their pad over others, but the build quality and accessibility are second to none. Plus they don't have any geeky stigma, especially with the iphone.

Nintendo makes better games though.  That's why they destroyed PlayStation this generation.

Nintendo did not make better games last Gen and the Gen before that, it's only this Gen they are starting to make better games, right ?

According to the market, yes.   The games on PlayStation and PlayStation 2 were preferable.  Now the games on Nintendo DS and Wii are preferable.

Sony made better games in PS1 and PS2 era than Nintendo but this Generation Nintendo is making better games thus the reason they are winning this Generation, right?

Who said anything about Sony?  I'm saying (in terms of the market) there were better games on PS1 than N64, and PS2 than GC.  Now there are better games on DS than PSP, and Wii than PS3.  

If you wanted to delve deeper, I'd also put forward that the best DS/Wii games, and the ones that have really driven the market, were almost all from Nintendo.  And the the best games on PS1/PS2, the ones that also really drove those markets, were mostly not from Sony.

Let me repeat what you said earlier " Nintendo makes better games though, that's why they destroyed the playstation this Gen" your words. Then you said the PS1/PS2 era the best games were not from Sony, right?  You are confusing me there. Sony still won two Gen without making better games than NINTENDO. In fact, they are losing badly the first time they realy competing with Nintendo when it comes to great games.

 



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