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.jayderyu said:
Can I make an addendum. This type of comparison isn't equal as it stand. Other factors

Dollar difference
Average income per month
Living expenses per month(I hear some countries rent is 2/3 your monthly pay and food is cheap)

You never know the effect cost per person could be roughly the same across many countries based on income levels and such factors.

The BIGGEST difference is taxes.  Period.  Many countries, including all European and most Latin American countries have either a VAT or an import tax that adds HUUUUUUGE amounts of money to everything they buy.  The VAT is a HIDDEN tax that makes everything in Europe 15 to 25 percent more expensive than it is in the US.

Thanks to Obama and his crazy healthcare bill, we will now need a VAT in America too.  It'll crush jobs, kill growth, destroy the entire retail sector, millions will lose their jobs, their houses, their dignity, but oh hey, look, at least we can look forward to RIOTS and bankers (like my wife) being murdered, as we're seeing in Greece right now, when the shit really hits the fan for spending all this dough we don't have. 


All of those European countries passed VAT taxes a couple decades ago to pay for their universal health care, and look where it got them.  They are the most in debt, out of control countries, with much worse health care than we have, and now the crap is really goin to hit the fan with the massive debts they can no longer afford thanks to all of those health benefits/pensions etc...  Look at California, with its 10% sales tax, massive public pensions, medical liabilities, and you see Barack Obama's vision for America as a whole.  Broke.  In debt.  Headed for disaster.  The VAT only feeds that hungry mouth more money, and so it spends more.  Again, the most in debt countries in the world are the countries that have VAT taxes.  The countries with the lowest economic growth are the countries with VAT taxes.  Obama has traded our healthy economy, the best health system in the world, and solid economic growth (historically compared to Europe) all so that 5% of the population could get free health insurance.  What a great deal!



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the ps3 is around $450 - $600 usd, games are $100 usd,

i think every south american country put high taxes to practically everything that want to enter into their territory. for instance in my country they use this to protect the internal market, and so our economy (which doesnt grow since 2001)



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PS3 (120gb): €299
Xbox 360 (Elite): I've started seeing a LOT of places doing €199 (or even €169) deals.
Wii: €199 (I think)
PSP: Unsure
DS: Unsure
PS2: I saw Game doing a €60 deal, with an extra controller. (It was pink though)

ATI Radeon 5770: €150-170
Intel Core i5-750: ~€175
4gb of DDR3-1600mhz RAM: ~€120

That's some stuff off the top of my head.



drakesfortune said:
.jayderyu said:
Can I make an addendum. This type of comparison isn't equal as it stand. Other factors

Dollar difference
Average income per month
Living expenses per month(I hear some countries rent is 2/3 your monthly pay and food is cheap)

You never know the effect cost per person could be roughly the same across many countries based on income levels and such factors.

The BIGGEST difference is taxes.  Period.  Many countries, including all European and most Latin American countries have either a VAT or an import tax that adds HUUUUUUGE amounts of money to everything they buy.  The VAT is a HIDDEN tax that makes everything in Europe 15 to 25 percent more expensive than it is in the US.

Thanks to Obama and his crazy healthcare bill, we will now need a VAT in America too.  It'll crush jobs, kill growth, destroy the entire retail sector, millions will lose their jobs, their houses, their dignity, but oh hey, look, at least we can look forward to RIOTS and bankers (like my wife) being murdered, as we're seeing in Greece right now, when the shit really hits the fan for spending all this dough we don't have. 


All of those European countries passed VAT taxes a couple decades ago to pay for their universal health care, and look where it got them.  They are the most in debt, out of control countries, with much worse health care than we have, and now the crap is really goin to hit the fan with the massive debts they can no longer afford thanks to all of those health benefits/pensions etc...  Look at California, with its 10% sales tax, massive public pensions, medical liabilities, and you see Barack Obama's vision for America as a whole.  Broke.  In debt.  Headed for disaster.  The VAT only feeds that hungry mouth more money, and so it spends more.  Again, the most in debt countries in the world are the countries that have VAT taxes.  The countries with the lowest economic growth are the countries with VAT taxes.  Obama has traded our healthy economy, the best health system in the world, and solid economic growth (historically compared to Europe) all so that 5% of the population could get free health insurance.  What a great deal!

Have you seen the debt of the US? It makes other countries look like perfect countries.

Also, VAT is just an alternative to Sales Tax. They aren't meant to both be used together. FYI: If sales tax and VAT are equal, people will pay way less in taxes at retail under the VAT system.



Here in Norway prices are like this;

Wii: 320-350$ (the Black Wii costs more). Games cost 110$ A complete controller costs around 150$

360 Elite: 300-350$ depending on the bundle. Games cost 100$ A complete controller costs around 60$

PS3: 400-450$, depends on the store. Games cost 100$ A complete controller costs around 80$

Example GPU: HD 5870 (the one I'm getting shortly) costs 550$.



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Chile,

PS3 about 500 USD
new games between 50-90 dollars, I'd say an average of 70 or 80 dollars.



drakesfortune said:
.jayderyu said:
Can I make an addendum. This type of comparison isn't equal as it stand. Other factors

Dollar difference
Average income per month
Living expenses per month(I hear some countries rent is 2/3 your monthly pay and food is cheap)

You never know the effect cost per person could be roughly the same across many countries based on income levels and such factors.

The BIGGEST difference is taxes.  Period.  Many countries, including all European and most Latin American countries have either a VAT or an import tax that adds HUUUUUUGE amounts of money to everything they buy.  The VAT is a HIDDEN tax that makes everything in Europe 15 to 25 percent more expensive than it is in the US.

Thanks to Obama and his crazy healthcare bill, we will now need a VAT in America too.  It'll crush jobs, kill growth, destroy the entire retail sector, millions will lose their jobs, their houses, their dignity, but oh hey, look, at least we can look forward to RIOTS and bankers (like my wife) being murdered, as we're seeing in Greece right now, when the shit really hits the fan for spending all this dough we don't have. 


All of those European countries passed VAT taxes a couple decades ago to pay for their universal health care, and look where it got them.  They are the most in debt, out of control countries, with much worse health care than we have, and now the crap is really goin to hit the fan with the massive debts they can no longer afford thanks to all of those health benefits/pensions etc...  Look at California, with its 10% sales tax, massive public pensions, medical liabilities, and you see Barack Obama's vision for America as a whole.  Broke.  In debt.  Headed for disaster.  The VAT only feeds that hungry mouth more money, and so it spends more.  Again, the most in debt countries in the world are the countries that have VAT taxes.  The countries with the lowest economic growth are the countries with VAT taxes.  Obama has traded our healthy economy, the best health system in the world, and solid economic growth (historically compared to Europe) all so that 5% of the population could get free health insurance.  What a great deal!

Canada has sales taxes as well and none of your bolded statements above really apply to us.

Every province has the GST - which is 5%
And then every province has it's own PST - which varies from 0% to 10% - In Ontario where I am it is 8%, so I pay an extra 13% in tax on everything. 

Our banks are a lot more stringent in lending money than in the USA though, so that probably helps as banks don't generally loan us more money than we can afford

 

OT:a 5850 is a little over $300, which based on currency rate today.. 1 Canadian Dollar = 3.80867 Argentine Peso

Which would equal 1141 pesos.. so you get a good deal :P



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GreyianStorm said:

Have you seen the debt of the US? It makes other countries look like perfect countries.

Also, VAT is just an alternative to Sales Tax. They aren't meant to both be used together. FYI: If sales tax and VAT are equal, people will pay way less in taxes at retail under the VAT system.

Large debts are bad, VAT is bad and sales taxes are bad.  :)



 

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GreyianStorm said:
drakesfortune said:
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Have you seen the debt of the US? It makes other countries look like perfect countries.

 

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GreyianStorm said:
drakesfortune said:
.jayderyu said:

Have you seen the debt of the US? It makes other countries look like perfect countries.

Also, VAT is just an alternative to Sales Tax. They aren't meant to both be used together. FYI: If sales tax and VAT are equal, people will pay way less in taxes at retail under the VAT system.


Please explain that logic.

A $300 item with 10% VAT would sell for $330 at retail with the consumer not being shown the original item's price.

A $300 item with 10% sales tax would sell for $300 + $30 tax for a total of $330.

$330 = $330.