Yeah sure, losing their main exclusive dev (Bungie) and letting him going multiplat with Activision won't affect 360 at all. Er, what ?

It's not like 360 had tons of flagship developers. They had only one, Bungie.

I'm just curious why everyone thinks that Activision is the bad guy in the Infinity Ward fiasco.

Would they still be the bad guys if West and Zampella really were trying to get in bed with EA, while still being employees of Activision? I don't think anyone knows all the facts about what went on between Infinity Ward and Activision, and I think everyone needs to take a break from the haterade and ease up on Activision.

It's sort of like how everyone seems intent on blaming Activision for $60 PC games, even though Blizzard charged $60 for Warcraft 3 at release...

Anyways, I'm looking forward to seeing what Bungie has in store next. I'm not particularly fond of Halo (I think it's pretty boring), but I know they do quality work, and they have made games I've liked in the past.

Only the new ip is multiplat. Maybe bungie has plans with microsoft after Reach? We don't know at this point. Also, we have no idea how the deal is structured. Its over 10 years so maybe a game every 3 yrs? Leaves penlty of time to work with Microsoft in the between yrs.

Seriously dude...don't you see you are the only one waiving the fanboy flag around here.

Do I have to list the exclusives that Sony list from last gen? Ms didn't lose any here...

Don't worry about MS, they have enough cash to by Valve, Epic and every other remaining independent developer if they wanted to. The key aspect is that Bungie did not want to work on Halo anymore and you can bet they are not a cheap team to secure. Now MS has an oportunity to use that cash and get top end tallent to make the next Halo game.

Otherwise maybe next bungie title is a rail shooter...

Lionhead and Epic?  I know Epic isn't owned by Microsoft, but they are close, like Insomniac and Sony.

Fable and Gears of War are the highest selling HD exclusives not named Halo or Metal Gear Solid.  And Metal Gear Solid is now multiplatform.

I don't think Microsoft is going to be "hurting" from this news.

Indeed, the press release said that Bungie has 180 employees, that's about 3 1/2 times as large as something like Remedy, so multiple projects could be a possibility.

One of things I haven't seen brought up yet is that since we know MS has the right of first refusal on all bungie future projects, we can assume that MS turned down whatever this project is. The only thing I can think of that MS would turn down would be a universe similar to Halo. If it were a call of duty based game I don't think MS would let bungie accept the project without MS being the publisher. In fact since Activision owns the Call of Duty universe I don't think it could happen at all without MS getting a piece of the pie.

That first right of refusal may have been interwebz bullshit.

This could be very similar to MS's relationship with Epic. Activision only has the rights to 1 IP. Bungie can still make games with other IPs with other publishers. So unless Bungie makes games for 1 IP for the next ten years(it is possible, as history states :) ), they can have multiple publishers.

I could list those MS lost to PS3 too, like Bioshock, Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean, Ninja Gaiden, Braid, GTA Episodes, so many more...

And yeah, MS just lost any future exclusivity for EVERY game from Bungie, so it's huge and it's actually a lot worse than losing just one game. It will matter a lot when people will decide between Xbox 720 and PS4... It further increases the already big gap in exclusive quality and quantity.

No amount of PR spin can change facts, which is it's a bad news for MS and a good news for Sony.

Are we sure the right of first refusal is BS. I seem to remember that being a huge sticking point to the deal when Bunige went independent. Quick! somebody grab a nerd and glue them to the internet until we get an answer.

Edit:  Ok i did it myself...I think JaggedSac is correct I don't see mention of Right of first refusal in any of the reliable sources.  Most sources show MS hold an undisclosed minority share in Bungie and that after a few years Bungie would be free to develop partnerships with other publishers.