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XxXProphecyXxX said:
It only does every thing even make the doomed sqaud cry in denial....

You think they'll cry in denial over this?! Learn from the Wii experience man! The goalposts are constantly shifting. Sony is doomed because they aren't making as much profit as Nintendo, so there!



Tease.

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Squilliam said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
It only does every thing even make the doomed sqaud cry in denial....

You think they'll cry in denial over this?! Learn from the Wii experience man! The goalposts are constantly shifting. Sony is doomed because they aren't making as much profit as Nintendo, so there!

Damn your right, I should have known better.



Tridrakious said:
I'm not saying that the PS3 will get a price cut, but I do for see one a month before Reach.

120 gb PS3, bundled with Move, dropped to $249.99. But will be phased out.
250 gb PS3, bundled with Move, dropped to $299.99.

GT5 will release Oct or Nov 2010.
Move will become a cash cow for Sony.
Killzone 3 or Resistance 3 holiday 2010.
Socom 4, available with or without Move.

With Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid: Other M releasing in 1st haft of 2010. It'll leave Sony with the best chance for being number one this holiday.
The majority of content for 360 is also multiplatforn.

You make it sound like Nintendo will not have a title or two for Christmas. I'm willing to bet Sony wouldn't be number one (sale wise) this holiday.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

CGI-Quality said:
They'll probably do a Move bundle for $299 and continue to profit.

They may even have a $250 deal without Move and break even on that model (depending on what their current profit rate is of course).

Not likely.  Right now with this new addition they are probably making $10-20 profit max.  There is no way they could break even on a $250 model or profit on a $300 Move bundle.  Maybe a $400 Move Bundle or $350 at the cheapest.



thismeintiel said:
Tridrakious said:
I don't think Sony should wait to see what Microsoft does.

It'll look like a desperation move on Sony's part. They need to keep the guns blazing.

Force Microsoft to respond to them again.

I'm sure Sony is going to want to make the maxium profit off the PS3 for as long as possible and will wait till the last possible minute.  That being the moment MS drops it price, most likely around the launch of Natal.

@ Squilliam

I guess MS should have burned their money, as well, since after 9 years the X-Box brand has still lost them more money than it has made. 

Actually Sony won't drop their price for another year.  They said it themselves.  They will do exactly like they did in 2008.  Let MS take the momentum, ride it out, and then do their move the following year.  Same as 2009 and 2007 too.

Now, I still don't see where people are getting the idea that they could afford to bundle Move with the PS3 for $250-300.  They would have to take another $100 loss or more at those prices! (if $250).



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nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
Tridrakious said:
I don't think Sony should wait to see what Microsoft does.

It'll look like a desperation move on Sony's part. They need to keep the guns blazing.

Force Microsoft to respond to them again.

I'm sure Sony is going to want to make the maxium profit off the PS3 for as long as possible and will wait till the last possible minute.  That being the moment MS drops it price, most likely around the launch of Natal.

@ Squilliam

I guess MS should have burned their money, as well, since after 9 years the X-Box brand has still lost them more money than it has made. 

Actually Sony won't drop their price for another year.  They said it themselves.  They will do exactly like they did in 2008.  Let MS take the momentum, ride it out, and then do their move the following year.  Same as 2009 and 2007 too.

Now, I still don't see where people are getting the idea that they could afford to bundle Move with the PS3 for $250-300.  They would have to take another $100 loss or more at those prices! (if $250).

I'm not sure where this $250 wish price is coming from either. I'm guessing it's from the same group that's expecting to see a $150 Natal/Arcade bundle.

Last since I heard, SCE stated the Move starter pack, with no specifics mentioned as to what it includes, will be under $100, meaning probably $99. For that price, I would guess it includes the basic controller, a tech demo game and a PSEye. 

I think some people are forgetting Move doesn't work without the PSEye, so any console bundle would have to include that $35 peripheral as well. The Move controller will likely be priced the same as the DS3 at $55. 

Putting that into consideration, a $299 Move bundle would almost be a $100 price reduction off the current $299 price. 

But by the same token, I see almost no point in a $399 Move bundle if it's virtually the same price as a Move starter pack and a $299 PS3, unless they threw in a larger HDD maybe (250GB vs. 120GB). Even then, it would have to come with a pretty decent game. 



OMG Sony is coming back, the economy is getting better, their laptops are getting better, they released the xperia 10, PS3 is now profitable, and their LED TV's coming out this june. Good news



greenmedic88 said:

 

Last since I heard, SCE stated the Move starter pack, with no specifics mentioned as to what it includes, will be under $100, meaning probably $99. For that price, I would guess it includes the basic controller, a tech demo game and a PSEye. 

Well in the june 2010 isue of OPM  page 6 they stated:

one move controller

+

one playstation eye

+

one playstation move game

for

less than $100.00

 other packages will also be available

most likely I think it will be for $80.00

My guess on the breakdown something like this/

PS3 eye = $30,00

playstation move = $20.00

playstation move game = $30.00

for this bundle.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

The Move controller will be at least $40. The nunchuck/navigator will be at least $20.



If Sony doesn't bundle the Move with each PS3 sold this fall, and if it costs $80 or more, I just don't see that many people buying into it.

And if the install base isn't large, no 3rd party developer is going to bother supporting it. It will either be a tacky addon to an existing control scheme or used in the occasional PSN game.

They said at one point that it would be available in the spring, so I am wondering if they delayed it to have more time to gets costs under control, so they could sell it bundled at a break-even point.

Personally, I think the PS Eye costs them about $10 to make, and ditto for the Move. That means to bundle it they would have to save $20 somehow. The only item I could foresee them cutting to get costs down further would be to reduce the size of the HDD (down to 80 GB?). The other option would be to have a $349 Move bundle with a 120 GB HDD.

The could risk including the PS Eye and Move controller in a $299 bundle, and hope that people will buy the Navigator or additional Move controllers to make up the difference. Considering how much money they've lost so far on the PS3, I don't see this happening.

Definitely no price cut this year.