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Lord N said:
 

It didn't hurt the Dreamcast and it hasn't hurt the PSP either.

-Im 1998/1999, computers were still shipping with CD-ROM drives, and computer CD writers and recordable CD's were still very expensive.

-P2P apps like Kazaa, Limewire, Emule, and Bittorent didn't exist, so isos were a lot harder to find.

-Nearly everyone was still using dial-up at that point in time, so even if you did manage to find DC isos, they'd take forever to download.

The PSP's poor software sales can be attribute to Sony marketing it as a multimedia device first and a gaming device second, which is why there are so many people using them as portable video players and MP3 players. TBH, the only ones that required no modification were the ones that had FW1.5, which stopped being available at retail 1.5 years ago. To modify later models requires upgrading and downgrading firmware, installing and configuring software, which the average gamer can't be arsed to do.

 


You're saying all that is if the internet at that time was the biggest contributer to piracy - I would say from personal experience that the biggest contributer to piracy in the PS / DC days were people.

 I don't know about anyone else but I knew so many people who would offer a small charge to chip a machine and then do copies of the games. They'd have a huge printed out list of everything you could get from them. Those same games would be passed on from one person to another - it was one huge vicious cycle of people knowing people.

 I don't ever see anything like that now - and I think thats where the internet plays it's part. It's easier to do it yourself now. Back then you had to know someone and finding someone wasn't that hard. Word of mouth played a huge part in PS1 piracy I would say. 



 

 
 
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Nintendo has always had a low tolerance for piracy, and be no fool this particular company likr many others has a love hate relationship with the practice. The problem piracy tools increase hardware sales, but also decrease software sales. Piracy actually saved the N64 in southeast Asia. Without the pirated disk drive that allowed players to play all the games for a relatively low price Nintendo wouldn't have sold half the consoles they did in the region.

The only reason your not seeing the impact of the piracy is, because the portable has a massive user base. Rest assured though it is cutting into the bottom line. Further more Akihabara is a shopping district in Japan and not an online retailer. Which means the chip must be seeing increasing demand. Not only to be sold in a brick and mortar, but to actually get an article printed about it. Even openly advertising it does not speak well.

I find it interesting that discussing how Sony has blocked piracy with some new firmware, or how Microsoft launched an internet attack on modders. However discussing it in regards to the DS is strictly forbidden.




So, if they are selling out of Wii hardware and software at present, and the DS has zero competition and plenty of demand, exactly how is piracy a threat?

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Remember, if nintendo's DS games get pirated, it doesn't matter that much, as they don't need software sales to make a console profit, as nintendo make a profit from each machine sold... but that said High software sales are needed to entice third parties to make games for nintendo...



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Legend11 said:

Apparently there's a device called the R4 which is being sold openly in Japanese stores.  Not only that but the cost of the device puts it in the price range of even the most casual gamer.  It'll be interesting to see what Nintendo does to combat this since the device itself is apparently not strictly illegal in Japan (at least according to the article).

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30930


My dear Legend11, for an X360 owner you seem to care a little bit too much about Nintendo... It seems that you are the person that starts the most threads on VGChartz about them! I'd say this is the clear sign of a fanboy, you care more about the problems of the other company than about the greatness of your favourite one... I for one would be worried if I noticed such behaviour for myself!



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fkusumot said:
stof said:
I have an R4 card. A friend bought it for me. And it really did kill my DS software purchases. Infact, it completely killed my DS playing. On the one hand I'm less likely to buy software since I know I don't have to pay for it. But on the other, I don't really like the R4 card. It doesn't feel like I'm playing the complete game when I use it. I have never actually put additional games on it aside from what my friend put on it for me. So I've been sucked into this Nimbus of DS gaming, and now my DS just sits on the table while I enjoy Wii games I legally purchase.


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nintendo_fanboy said:
Legend11 said:

Apparently there's a device called the R4 which is being sold openly in Japanese stores. Not only that but the cost of the device puts it in the price range of even the most casual gamer. It'll be interesting to see what Nintendo does to combat this since the device itself is apparently not strictly illegal in Japan (at least according to the article).

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30930


My dear Legend11, for an X360 owner you seem to care a little bit too much about Nintendo... It seems that you are the person that starts the most threads on VGChartz about them! I'd say this is the clear sign of a fanboy, you care more about the problems of the other company than about the greatness of your favourite one... I for one would be worried if I noticed such behaviour for myself!


 Legend11 is a hit and run thread maker. Makes threads about topics that he has no personal knowledge of and very limited interest in discussing. You know, just sayin'.



Wow, this "Where is your Wii God now?" thread fell flat on its face.

It's old news Legend, just move on... There is much more Fudd to be spread I'm sure this time of year.



Girl Gamer Elite said:

It's old news Legend, just move on... There is much more Fudd to be spread I'm sure this time of year.


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Ban this troll, already.



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks

Uh, Girl Gamer or Legend? I'm not sure which you mean, as you could make a case for either one.

He was just posting some news, lay off...your egos can survive.



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