| Zargeras said: this whole thread was a joke for ppl that still havent got it, !, read slower next time and you might just get more out of the text! |
I've to the thread was a joke, then someone took it seriously so I argued
therefore making me go down the toilet.
Solid_Snake4RD said:
i am talking of it being in context of comparing it with FF series numbers and hype behind FF13.
anyways,i can see u are knew on this site and you will stop behaving in this way till you spend a couple of more months on it,everybody that comes on this site is the same way that you are behaving.
just one last question,do you think if franchises like Halo of Gran turismo only did 2m,they wouldn't be considered a flop?
stop sticking to the defintion,and try to understand what the other person is trying to say.its like a nerd who tops the class,knows everthing in the book and doesn't know anything about the concerned matter or other thing ouside his books. |
I fell for the flaimbate thats fine. I lose
Well news flash FFXIII is going to sell 5-6 million 5-6 million does not equal that. Halo's Sold 6 million before, so no that would not be a flop. GT5 since it's been in development so long Like FFXIII only worse. it would be underperfroming.
I will say this and I have said this, Even If you are comparing it to FF7 and FF10, 2/13 franchises it underperformed.
It's like me calling you a turtle and instisting that you are a turtle. But you are obviously not a turtle
Final Fantasy 13 is not a flop, by defination. Making up your own words and definitions. Technically by this your rule I can say I am god. And therefore I am God, so bow down sista. It is something else by definition but your insistance on calling it a flop is incorrect
If you want to make up your own definition of flop rather than the correct edition, you win.
| Bullet100000 said: Ahh man CGI-Quality spoiled the fun for everyone. |
hahahahaha
Stanislav.Ten said:
And become a douche like you? I'd rather not, Thank you. |
everybody new on this site is a bit grumpy but they cool down after some months,its the same with everybody.
zero129 said:
wel it shouldnt of been hard for the PS3 version to outsell the 360 one when most of the sales for FF13 came from japan where it was only released on the PS3, plus alot of people that wanted the game had a PS3 for this game got already (Remember it was ment to of been exclusive to the PS3 for a long time), and to spite all that the sales on the 360 are not bad at all imo. And i wouldn't be 100% sure about Versus 13 as it seems like its going to be a much better game and i think with the sales of FF13 on the 360 will make them at least think about porting it to the 360, id say we might even hear somethng about it at this E3 or TGS... |
PS3 outsold 360 version in the west too.
and anyways not jst the 360,FF13 sold badly on the PS3 too
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PS3 outsold 360 version in the west too.
and anyways not jst the 360,FF13 sold badly on the PS3 too |
I agree, FFXIII sold badly and so did MGS4. Consensus we have
thelifatree said:
I fell for the flaimbate thats fine. I lose Well news flash FFXIII is going to sell 5-6 million 5-6 million does not equal that. Halo's Sold 6 million before, so no that would not be a flop. GT5 since it's been in development so long Like FFXIII only worse. it would be underperfroming.
Final Fantasy 13 is not a flop, by defination. Making up your own words and definitions. Technically by this your rule I can say I am god. And therefore I am God, so bow down sista. It is something else by definition but your insistance on calling it a flop is incorrect If you want to make up your own definition of flop rather than the correct edition, you win. |
you still didn't answer my question,will halo be considered a hit if it sold 2m?
you think that was flaiming,gud for you
jst because halo sold 6m so FF13 is not a flop,what are you talking about and where are you taking this?
GT5 won't be underperforming and will sell atleast 10m.
"FF 2/13 of the franshises it underperformed",now are you comparing this with the older FF's on Nintendo system?are you serious?
if you are then you just don't know how to argue,and be in limits and understand what to compare and what to leave aside.
"FF13 is not a flop by defintion",yeah,jst stick to the defintion.i know you wouldn't look beyond the book and won't try to understand what the person is saying?
yeah jst saying you win,then why did you even bother to write your last post?trying to be cool that i'm better but i let you win.hahahahaha
you're make assumptions. And extrapolate only the data that fits your argument. As do I at times. But there are more factors than FFX, and FFVII were the first final fantasys on PS consoles. Those consoles had the market share as well. The only market where you could have an argument of it flopping is Japan, because they normaly get around 3 million sales and this one got 2. Thus, The likely longterm sales of FFXIII is likely 5.5-6, but if Japan Would have had a bigger install base it would have done 6.5-7.
So The only argument, that can come close to being a flop is that it flopped in japan
Square Said they expected to sell 6+ million thats the ballpark its gonna do. He wanted it to be another FFVII but that's not realistic. Nintendo took 15 years to make a console the success of the snes.
how can you say GT5 will sell 10 million. It isn't even out yet. FFXIII isn't done selling either.
If FFXIII sold 2 million. As darth said its an 80percent decrease Yes it would be a flop, because it wouldnt make up for productions costs and thus that = failure = definition but it didn't its going to sell 5+ in line with other final fantasy's.
All I've argued is that you are calling things what they aren't. You are using incorrect words and expect me to read your mind. If that's what you expect me to do then fine. But when you are trying to have an argument that's rational use the correct terms. Bad sales is closer to the correct term you're trying to imply, good job you're learning.
zero129 said:
I know thats why i said most people that wanted it most likely already had a PS3 for this game got already. But i still think for a Game thats pretty much been on a sony console for the last 2 gens the sales still wasn't too bad on the 360, and shows the is a market for RPG's on the console. thats why i think square will bring FFVs13 to the 360 too but this time i think they will release it in japan too, after all they know they are garanted atleast 1million extra copies sold since FF13 is on its way to that on the 360, and Vs seems to be a better game in style imo. |
Versus seems to be alot better.
I don't know if they bring it to 360 or not,there is a survey going on that could decide it maybe.
on Versus releasing on 360 in japan,i jst don't see that happening.
First Nomura wouldn't like to do it cause he is more of a PS fan.even if he agrees,then also don't see it coming cause there was already alot of people annoyed of it coming to 360 and in all SQ could have sold more WW.Alot of people do
When it comes to a single console,the games get more attention but when it is coming on all platforms the attention kind of dies down.Also it would creat alot of annoyance in Japan where they mostly don't accept western things and also with 360 base there,it wouldn't be much as most FF fans would have already bought a PS3 for FF13.Ofcourse they could get some money from MS but i jst don't see it coming to japan,don't know about West.
| thelifatree said: you're make assumptions. And extrapolate only the data that fits your argument. As do I at times. But there are more factors than FFX, and FFVII were the first final fantasys on PS consoles. Those consoles had the market share as well. The only market where you could have an argument of it flopping is Japan, because they normaly get around 3 million sales and this one got 2. Thus, The likely longterm sales of FFXIII is likely 5.5-6, but if Japan Would have had a bigger install base it would have done 6.5-7. So The only argument, that can come close to being a flop is that it flopped in japan
Square Said they expected to sell 6+ million thats the ballpark its gonna do. He wanted it to be another FFVII but that's not realistic. Nintendo took 15 years to make a console the success of the snes.
how can you say GT5 will sell 10 million. It isn't even out yet. FFXIII isn't done selling either. If FFXIII sold 2 million. As darth said its an 80percent decrease Yes it would be a flop, because it wouldnt make up for productions costs and thus that = failure = definition but it didn't its going to sell 5+ in line with other final fantasy's. All I've argued is that you are calling things what they aren't. You are using incorrect words and expect me to read your mind. If that's what you expect me to do then fine. But when you are trying to have an argument that's rational use the correct terms. Bad sales is closer to the correct term you're trying to imply, good job you're learning. |
hadn't let me win,then why write another big para.
sometimes you argue on one thing, and then you pick another thing then you again don't prove your point then you say another thing,stick to one
darth said?oh you went upto darth and told him to fight for you.wtf?hey this guy isn't listning so please go and post on his walll and explain him
Square said alot of things,its ps3 exlusive,it will do FF7 numbers.And about the 6m estimate,companies try to give out smaller goals that are reachable and not bigger that are difficult to reach so that when they don't fail atleast in the estimating process which will put them in doubt in the future,flop is more dependent upon profit estimations
defintions,defintions,defintions,you really don't get out of the books.please teach me literature now
hey,correct terms,well it was well below its overall estimations of most as most at the start thought it would sell like hot cakes,according withe meaning of the words you should also be able to know how to use it and understand its meaning when other use it.
MW2 had a budget of $200m and most of previous COD's sold comparatively less to it but its expectations were high because of the hype and ads,so if it woul have sold just average of it previous games(which is around 4m),it would be a flop according to its expectations,now would you from next time compare COD sales to MW and MW2 and its then expectations or to the old franchises sales.
failure and flop are 2 different thing,failure when your product doesn't get back what you invested.and just because it made a profit,doesn't mean it is a hit
GT5 has almost all its development cost covered with Prologue,doesn't mean that if it does 1m and turn a profit,it would be okay
some more time on this site will make your predictions better,thats how i know GT5 will sell 10m.most of the newcomers on this site are bad at predicting sales when they come first and a bit arrogant cause they think they know all but then improve with time,you will too.
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