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welshbloke on 17 April 2010

I still have 2 A1200's one with a Blizzard under the hood for extra goodness. My best moment for me was getting my Squirrel SCSI Zip drive and being able to play UFO without disk swapping and with insane load up times (Not sure why I never got a HDD for it though). Ah those were the days.

I remember playing Settlers with two mice now that was awesome.

Favourite Games

UFO Series
Sim Series
Settlers Series
Banshee AGA
Battle Isle (Awesome)
Syndicate
Galaga
Zool

And lots more.


The sad thing now is I cannot remember even how to switch em on!



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drkohler on 17 April 2010
libellule said:
MikeB said:


Fortunately, Irving Gould [CEO of Commodore] helped Apple by running Commodore into the ground."

 

OK, APPLE was dominated but advertised better

If you want to hang the right person, it was Mehdi Ali who ran C= and the Amiga into the ground, not Irving Gould (he was just the rich guy with the sea container patent, he had no idea about the PC business in general).

My A500 had 1.5M of ram. Also a self-built adapter with an ISA-slot, filled with a PC-HD-controler and a Seagate ST225RLL drive for an insane 32MByte of harddisk space.. I remember the day when the indonesian government shut down the CD32 plant and transferred the entire stock to the workers (who hadn't been paid for months then. That was a sure sign Amiga days were over..). Also the post of Dave Haynie where he mentioned they instantly fried one of the two new AA chipsets which were ever manufactured due to financial restraints (and I recently came across my Amiga Deathbed-vigil T-shirt again)



MikeB on 17 April 2010

In the 80s you could also get a 1 gigabyte of storage from an optical worm drive.

Here an interesting Computer Chronicles coverage of the Amiga, also discussing why the general computing press in the United States did everything to ignore the Amiga (even today you can find websites relating to computing history pretending the Amiga never existed):

http://revver.com/video/407327/computer-chronicles-amiga-2500-371989/



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NJ5 on 17 April 2010
MikeB said:
MikeB said:

John Carmack once lied the Amiga wasn't capable of running games like Doom, but in reality Doom runs on Amiga configurations well older than Doom can run on the oldest compatible PC...

Not only was it a lie, my 25 Mhz Amiga 4000, which was first released well before Doom was released is even able to run ID Software's Quake from 1996:

http://www.clickboom.com/quake/requirements.html

It did not run well without additional expansions (like the expanded Amiga 1200 video linked earlier), but it runs, which couldn't be said for top range PCs available at the time of the Amiga 4000's release.

How well did it run? Any screenshots/benchmarks of Quake running with those minimum specs?

 



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MikeB on 17 April 2010

@ NJ5

How well did it run? Any screenshots/benchmarks of Quake running with those minimum specs?


Mimimum specs would be a 020 like found in the Amiga 1200 (many times slower than the 25 mhz 040 in my A4000).

With an AGA chipset from 1992 (running the most demanding PC game of 1996!) it looked like this:




On an 020 Amiga 1200 you would certainly have to make the screen smaller (non full screen), never tried that.

If anyone wanted to play it on a cheap Amiga 1200 it would be better to upgrade. Obviously this game was not designed for classic Amigas in mind (inefficient coding compared to classics and not designed for the custom chips):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao7haFa2iQk



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NJ5 on 17 April 2010
MikeB said:

@ NJ5

How well did it run? Any screenshots/benchmarks of Quake running with those minimum specs?


Mimimum specs would be a 020 like found in the Amiga 1200 (many times slower than the 25 mhz 040 in my A4000).

With an AGA chipset from 1992 (running the most demanding PC game of 1996!) it looked like this:




On an 020 Amiga 1200 you would certainly have to make the screen smaller (non full screen), never tried that.

If anyone wanted to play it on a cheap Amiga 1200 it would be better to upgrade. Obviously this game was not designed for classic Amigas in mind (inefficient coding compared to classics and not designed for the custom chips):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao7haFa2iQk

When Quake came out it also worked on older PCs. For a real comparison you'd have to run at the exact same resolution, and compare the frames-per-second (assuming the games have the same detail, texture quality and effects).

 



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MikeB on 17 April 2010

@ NJ5

AFAIK Quake required at least a pentium processor on the PC. There were no pentium processors in 1992.

The 68020 is from 1984.



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Fufinu on 17 April 2010

I still remember my Amiga 500 with 1 megabyte RAM. That was an amazing system!



Goodfella on 17 April 2010

I still have unsticked stickers somewhere in my basement lol! Good times.




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NJ5 on 17 April 2010
MikeB said:

@ NJ5

AFAIK Quake required at least a pentium processor on the PC. There were no pentium processors in 1992.

The 68020 is from 1984.

The first Pentium came out in early 1993.

As for the 68020, surely it requires the graphics co-processor you mentioned to run Quake.

 



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